Posted on 03/31/2008 2:15:02 PM PDT by blam
You go boy.
The eternal mess of the mideast continues. It will always be about clans, tribes, sects and corruption, and it ain’t going to end.
Slowly but surly they will fix themselves.
Who cares if they are surly.
I do agree that the new forces should have suspended them for 90 days or such, now you might have to expend resources policing the police.
Islam, for all it's claims of being many things honorable, usually seems to either turn tail and run, lie, cheat, steal, and bribe.
“The apparent thousands of Iraqi policemen...”
Another factless reference.
The Sadrist infiltrators just showed their colors. Good that they get rid of ‘em.
It's al-Bolani and there are thousands more who are willing and ready to attend the Police College and fight for Iraq. No shortage of sherta recruits.
Iraq is standing strong on this and if they stick to their guns (bad pun unintended), they will turn a major corner on the path to peace and stability here.
“Slowly but surly they will fix themselves.”
Uh huh, sure they will. I’m estimating 1500 years but I’m a bit of a pessimist when it comes to the ME. On the good side, maybe 150. So how much more blood and treasure can we waste? What’s a few more trillion in debt for my kids to pay off?
LOL
Surely
Nutjob must have sent Mookie a ton of money to meet this new payroll.
True. At the Ministry of Interior, they're saying about 400. Total.
I should know. I was over there this morning. :)
I hope you’re right and I’m wrong. I know there are many many Iraqis that want peace but my professional assessment is that when we pull out - even if it is 10 years from now - it is going to be nothing but a bloodbath. This time I suspect the shia will win out. The Kurds, as usual, will get screwed.
In the meantime we are wasting huge sums of money and too much blood. We are just putting off the inevitable.
And all along, I have seen progress. I have seen a majority of people who want peace, freedom and prosperity. I have gotten to know these people, both good and bad.
I have seen how the media twists, distorts and outright lies about anything that comes out of Iraq. And I have seen, sadly, how many people just take their word as gospel.
I will return to Iraq as a tourist within ten years and I will visit museums, shops and restaurants without wearing body armor or a weapon. Of this, I have full confidence.
I have made predictions on here before that have been flamed, but I have been right.
As always, I stand by my observations, regardless of what the naysayers have to say.
The US handed over control, i.e. the Constabulary ended in 1952, seven years of Allied military direct control. For more information see links provided: http://www.history.army.mil/lineage/Constab-IP.htm
The Bundeswehr came along in 1955.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr
The German Mark came in 1948.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Mark
The German Constitution came in 1948.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grundgesetz_f%C3%BCr_die_Bundesrepublik_Deutschland
The first German Chancellor came in 1949.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeskanzler_(Deutschland)
The first German post war courts, first elections, opening of airports, etc., all came LATER than in Iraq.
Things are going in all reality quite fast, you simply don't have a historical benchmark nor a concept of what right and wrong looks like. If someone tells you “XYZ” and it sounds good, you’ll go with that idea. Whatever the “mood” or “feeling” of the time is, that’s the opinion many share. From the Balkans to Korea, these sort of things do not go quickly and the S. Korean economy didn't really take off until 25 years after the war ended. Hell, they weren’t even really a democracy for many years after the war. Few would claim Germany to be a failure today, and that's a nation that does as little as possible around the world when it comes to securing our collective interests, a nation that more or less mooches.
How do you know if it's factless? Given the large # of bathists who were spared and allowed to become cops, what's so hard to believe about thousands of them not doing anything to help or even switching sides?
They should have been executed then and they should be executed now. Maliki will see them again when they think he's weak.
Sometimes I think the Iraqi’s actually WANT to FAIL.
What about the Bushee DEMOCRACY agenda? A benevolent dictator will bring peace and stability. Come to think of it, that's what Iraq needs right now.
Read Post #13.
Given the large # of bathists who were spared and allowed to become cops, what's so hard to believe about thousands of them not doing anything to help or even switching sides?
The defectors were not Ba'athists. They were Mehdi Army. Entirely, utterly and completely a different thing.
De-Ba'athification was only passed recently and only partially. There would not have been enough time to get that many former Ba'athists recruited and trained into the Iraq Police.
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