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Barack Obama Would Back Daughters' Abortion, "Don't Punish Them With a Baby"
LifeNews.com ^ | March 31, 2008 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 03/31/2008 10:47:46 AM PDT by SErtelt

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Barack Obama is drawing gasps from pro-life advocates today over comments he made during a campaign stop in Pennsylvania over the weekend. The leading Democratic presidential candidate appeared to back a potential decision by his daughters to seek an abortion saying he wouldn't "punish" them with a baby.

Obama's remarks are likely to add another reason to the list pro-life advocates are developing as to why he won't get their vote this November.

(Excerpt) Read more at lifenews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 4thecultureofdeath; abortion; babykiler; babykillers; barackobama; democrat; infanticide; moralabsolutes; murder; murderer; obama; obamafamily; obamatruthfile; prodeath; prolife; punishment; selfishact
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To: theDentist

No love lost between McCain and Obama:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/


81 posted on 03/31/2008 11:33:21 AM PDT by WOSG (Solve all the world's problems .... Just build more nukes already.)
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To: nikos1121

“You underestimate the loathing that many on FR have for McCain. It makes the hatred the dems have Bush seem innocent.”

I am very aware of them, they are cutting our own throats.

McCain ain’t perfect but this obama is the slimiest candidate the dems have brought out.


82 posted on 03/31/2008 11:35:10 AM PDT by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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To: Larebil

KEYES [to McCain]: What you would say if your daughter was ever in a position where she might need an abortion? You answered [earlier today] that the choice would be up to her and then that you’d have a family conference. That displayed a profound lack of understanding of the basic issue of principle involved in abortion. After all, if your daughter said she was contemplating killing her grandmother for the inheritance, you wouldn’t say, “Let’s have a family conference.” You’d look at her and say “Just Say No,“ because that is morally wrong. It is God’s choice that that child is in the womb. And for us to usurp that choice in contradiction of our declaration of principles is just as wrong.

http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/John_McCain_Abortion.htm


83 posted on 03/31/2008 11:35:43 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (“Any person who supports McCain’s campaign is a subscriber to McCain’s views." - McCain campaign)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Ouch!


84 posted on 03/31/2008 11:36:17 AM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: MEGoody
Because McCain has a much higher pro-life voting rating than Obama.

Like that matters to the babies that would still be killed under McCain's policies.

"...with liberty and justice for ALL."

85 posted on 03/31/2008 11:38:35 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (“Any person who supports McCain’s campaign is a subscriber to McCain’s views." - McCain campaign)
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Exactly. I wonder where Rev. Wright stands on that question?

If the child is WHITE, we know where he stands on that issue. (abortion)

86 posted on 03/31/2008 11:38:52 AM PDT by zip.com
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To: EternalVigilance

Unfortunately, abortions are legal in the USA. Killing your grandmother is not legal. If the daughter is a minor, I find the “family conference” troubling. If the daughter is in her 20s you can talk till you’re blue in the face, but ultimately it is her decision.


87 posted on 03/31/2008 11:43:18 AM PDT by nikos1121 (typical white person)
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To: nikos1121

“You underestimate the loathing that many on FR have for McCain”.

You mistake loathing for McCain, for support of Obama or Hillary. It’s not that McCain isn’t better than those two. It is that for one, abortion isn’t going to stop under a McCain Presidency. As vile as it is, he will nominate a moderate at best SCJ and abortion will not end.

Secondly, it’s about the direction we are headed in. If McCain becomes the new standard for Republicans, then not only will there be future McCains for Republican noninees, but he will be unopposed in congress on the very same policies that Republicans in congress will fight Hillary or Obama on.

If I thought for one second, that a McCain Presidency would put an end to abortions, I could vote for him in good conscience. It won’t though. A Reagan Presidency didn’t. A Bush the elder didn’t and a GW Bush Presidency didn’t. Sadly, both Reagan and Bush the first nominated liberal judges. This is the sad state of affairs in our country. The decay of morality on a million different issues and it’s not going to get better if we continue to hold our candidates to this standard. It will only get worse.

If there is any reversing this course, it will start now I believe which is why I can not vote for McCain in good conscience. That doesn’t mean I am not disgusted by abortion and these comments made by Obama. It means I’m looking at the bigger picture and realizing that McCain will not appoint judges to the Supreme court and get roe vs. wade reversed.


88 posted on 03/31/2008 11:44:59 AM PDT by LaurenD
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To: 6SJ7

This is very true, only he’s held up very well during the debates showing that he’s been well briefed.

On the other hand, he does well on the personal level. I would expect him to clean McCain’s clock if the issues were one of personalities and age.

This is why McCain is trying to make sure the campaign is run respectfully. He’ll win a lot of converts because of this.

Getting Obama to explain his positions will show the distinction between them.

I’m personally upset when I hear people say a vote for McCAin no different than a vote for Obama or Hillary or worse yet, that we should LET the dems win this, so that we’ll come back in 2012 will a real conservative candidate.


89 posted on 03/31/2008 11:46:36 AM PDT by nikos1121 (typical white person)
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To: nikos1121

Supposed “legality” aside, do you think there is a “moral” difference between killing your kid and killing your grandmother?


90 posted on 03/31/2008 11:48:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (“Any person who supports McCain’s campaign is a subscriber to McCain’s views." - McCain campaign)
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To: SErtelt

Even if he didn’t know about it, she was taken to the emergency room for life threatening injuries and ended up with breast cancer 15 years later.


91 posted on 03/31/2008 11:50:09 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SErtelt
"...But it should also include -- it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old," he added.

If Obama's 9 and 6 year-olds need contraception, he has bigger issues here.
92 posted on 03/31/2008 11:50:28 AM PDT by MockTurtle
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To: LaurenD

“As vile as it is, he will nominate a moderate at best SCJ and abortion will not end.”

The party platform does not say this. I’ve heard him say many times that he will nominate SCJ who uphold the constitution and are not revisionists.

So you like some others think that it’s best to sit this one out or not vote for McCain. We have the best chance of reversing Roe/Wade the next time a SCJ opening occurs. The next choice will most likely be a woman.

Has anyone looked at the Senate as to their stand on abortion? I don’t think it goes along straight party lines anymore does it? There are some dems who are prolife...


93 posted on 03/31/2008 11:51:11 AM PDT by nikos1121 (typical white person)
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To: Biblebelter

He’s a dangerous ignorant


94 posted on 03/31/2008 11:51:56 AM PDT by nikos1121 (typical white person)
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To: EternalVigilance

No of course not.

The morning after pill is clearly an abortion pill, although politicians don’t see it that way.


95 posted on 03/31/2008 11:53:40 AM PDT by nikos1121 (typical white person)
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To: EternalVigilance
Like that matters to the babies that would still be killed under McCain's policies.

Based on his voting record, I'm quite sure there would be a lot fewer under McCain than under Obama. Obama even voted against the law which would require abortion providers to give medical care to babies that survived an abortion.

96 posted on 03/31/2008 11:53:51 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: SErtelt

Wow. Punishment? Is that what adopting parents think? Couldn’t he have at least mentioned adoption as another option? Gotta kill the baby?


97 posted on 03/31/2008 11:54:08 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Never happen.


98 posted on 03/31/2008 11:59:54 AM PDT by Boblo
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To: ClearCase_guy
He's alking about his own daughters. Thus he's talking about his own grandchildren, whose existence he would regard a "punishment."

I've never heard a white racist say it's a "punishment" for black babies to be born alive.

99 posted on 03/31/2008 12:00:34 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Lord have mercy (40x))
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To: SErtelt
Saw a great bumper sticker the other day:

Abortion: Big people KILLING little people

G-d save us when stating the obvious becomes a bumper sticker.

100 posted on 03/31/2008 12:08:32 PM PDT by 14erClimb (I'm not a member of the vast RINO conspiracy)
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