Openly carrying gun not a crime

The Columbus Dispatch ^ | March 30, 2008 | Bill Bush

[Thumper1960]

*“As a police officer, we also have the right to protect ourselves from the public.”

How is a man carrying openly, not hiding his weapon, any threat to you or anyone else?

Just the fact that a civilian is armed is enough for some LEO's to get that rush of testosterone and adrenaline. They feel the need to control those they forget they're employed to serve. Those sort are the type who will enter the wrong house on a whim or a warrant and shoot the occupants and try to squirm out of the consequences.

Any LEO who is so flippant and greasy to claim they're in need of protection from the people is one cop who needs to be fired and sent to scraping the walls of the city sewers.

I sincerely pity the victims of their "protection".

[Copernicus]

The landscape of RKBA is strewn with anomalies and obscure exceptions and regulations.

Most people, especially Law Enforcement and Judges and Lawyers are unfamilar with most of them.

I know a farmer who clobbered a Wildlife Officer when the officer tried to ticket him for illegal harvest of beavers.

Turns out in his jurisdiction work agricultural operations have license over nuisance animals and the Game Wardens have NO, ie ZERO jurisdiction

The judge did not know it, the game warden did not know it, but the farmer had the statutes entered into the record and that was the end of that.

It is similar to my attempt to explain to RobertPaulsen that prisoners legally can and do and have had in the past weapons in their possession while incarcerated.

It is in the Penal Code, there are extant examples, but most people are so startled by the very notion of it they refuse to believe or discuss it.

Go figure.

Best regards,

[BIV]

my first thought. funny

[School of Rational Thought]

As a police officer, we also have the right to protect ourselves from the public. But if we remain focussed on what is written in this case, and if you are commenting on this situation, what suggests that the officer was threatened? If you see a car on the street, do you expect it be driven at you? Would you stop and frisk someone at a barbecue because they were holding a knife? How does the public measure an officer's fear, especially when minding one's own business?

[Hot Tabasco]

I have a CCW in Ohio and I won’t carry in the open, it’s just asking for trouble.

Me too here in Michigan.

I was ripped a while back from one of your state homies when I said I wasn't about to openly carry just to prove that I had the right to do so..........

[smoketree]

If you think he has trounced anyone in an argument you must be as deluded as he is.
Just because he keeps posting does not mean he has won anything.

[smoketree]

Nice try.
If you agree with paulsen then you and I will probably not agree on anything.
If you are refering that debating with me is not debating with an adult then I would say that you and I have not debated anything so you have no basis for that opinion.

[green iguana]

So basically you posted this to bash law enforcement officers. Golly you are cool.

So basically you posted that to bash law obeying citizens. Golly you are cool.

[School of Rational Thought]

Try to keep up and stay focussed on the situation as have been presented.

But I do have a question for you. What is worse, a forum bad-ass or someone who becomes a bad-ass cop to excercise his inadequacies over people who cannot defend themselves on an equal footing?

[Mojave]

Then why are the ankle-biters cowering away from pinging him?

[Copernicus]

Nice try. If you agree with paulsen then you and I will probably not agree on anything. If you are refering that debating with me is not debating with an adult then I would say that you and I have not debated anything so you have no basis for that opinion.

???????

Even the name seems to bring everyone to a keen edge.

I think your comments (about he who cannot be named) were correct and I thought I chimed in with my agreement.

You are welcome to visit my forum links page to see some of my latest encounters.

Best regards,

[diogenes ghost]

I'll go first!

Please, take me!!!

It's been soooo long since I've sparred with an unarmed man....take meeeee...

[PeaceBeWithYou]

Then why are the ankle-biters cowering away from pinging him?

Because no one in their right mind invites ants to a picnic.

[Gilbo_3]

bump for open carry in Ky as well...

[PeaceBeWithYou]

It's common courtesy, not a rule. And anyone that tells you it is, is mistaken.

The way I see it, the disingenuous deserve no such courtesy, as they don't practice it themselves.

[American_Centurion]

As a police officer, we also have the right to protect ourselves from the public.

Typical worried about himself above EVERYONE else, rights-be-damned, US LEO.

I'm NOT impressed, slick.

[smoketree]

Cowering??????????????????
Nobody’s cowering.
It’s more like avoiding quicksand.

[smoketree]

“About he who cannot be named”

That’s funny.

Perhaps I misunderstood you. Seems like everything around he who cannot be named gets confusing.

[kempo]

I hate heavy handed cops but they do have a right to defend themselves and confronting a stranger carry a firearm is serious business. As matter of fact it can and has been deadly business. You don't believe me? Try it sometimes. How long does it take for some one to turn and pull the trigger when the cop says “Excuse me sir”. The suspect may be a good guy and he may not be. Some on this forum think cops should be programed robots that make no mistakes. What a load of bull shit.

[Gilbo_3]

Maybe you should find a 'safer' line of work...

You either violate someone's rights or your dead.

just remember that once you violate my rights, I may feel obligated to return the favor...or at least just turn the other cheek if I recognize you lying in your pool of blood from a real criminals weapon...

LFOD...