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Welcome to subprime's ghost town
CNN Money ^ | March 28, 2008 | Chris Isidore

Posted on 03/29/2008 7:34:41 PM PDT by Lorianne

A year ago Irvine, Calif., was still riding high on the subprime boom; then almost overnight the industry and more than 4,000 good paying jobs vanished.___ IRVINE, Calif. (CNNMoney.com) -- The subprime mortgage meltdown has shaken the entire U.S. economy. But nowhere might the impact be as stark as Irvine, California, a planned community nestled between Los Angeles and San Diego.

A year ago at this time, Irvine was home to 18 subprime lenders, including many of the leaders in the field, such as New Century Financial and Option One. Then, in what seemed like the blink of an eye, 4,100 good-paying white collar jobs were gone, or roughly 2% of the city's work force.

And while that may not sound like a huge number of jobs lost, the ripple effects of the collapse of what was once a vibrant industry has extended far beyond the mortgage lending arena.

Irvine had become the center of the subprime industry almost by accident. As the business of writing mortgages to riskier borrowers grew rapidly in the middle of the decade, many top employees at the established subprime firms struck out on their own, setting up shop nearby.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: California
KEYWORDS: forclosures; irvine; mortage; subprime
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1 posted on 03/29/2008 7:34:46 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: cripplecreek; AuntB

Here’s another mortgage mess horror story. It’s really sad.


2 posted on 03/29/2008 7:36:23 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Those in the national Republican leadership do the work of three men- Moe, Larry, and Curly.)
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To: Lorianne

Hi Lorianne, I lived in California and the mortgage companies and banks were giving mortgages at no money down for goodness sake. If you don’t put anything down you just can’t afford the place to begin with.


3 posted on 03/29/2008 7:41:02 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: Lorianne

Well, IF I dropped 10K in Vegas, would you please cry me a tear?


4 posted on 03/29/2008 7:41:59 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Here’s another mortgage mess horror story. It’s really sad.

It's not sad, it's not a mess, it's not a horror story, and it's long overdue.

5 posted on 03/29/2008 7:43:30 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Lorianne

I sold my place there in 06. Watching it on zillow.com is sad for the current owner, but praise God that I got out when I did.


6 posted on 03/29/2008 7:44:34 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Senator McCain, what did GWB promise you back in 2000? And you believed him? BWAHAAAAA!)
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To: Lorianne

And it will just get worse as the ultra-liberal government of California keeps driving businesses and individuals out of California, with excessive taxation and socialistic regulation.

They are fools and idiots who ALWAYS shoot the goose that lays the golden eggs -— welcome to liberal socialism.


7 posted on 03/29/2008 7:45:11 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Lorianne
I think I read about this when I was a kid.


8 posted on 03/29/2008 7:46:20 PM PDT by OCC
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To: Clintonfatigued
Here’s another mortgage mess horror story. It’s really sad.

Greed gets out of hand, and some innocent folks always suffer. Texas went through it in the late 80s - early 90s. But the subprime lenders were, generally, a bunch of bottom feeders.

9 posted on 03/29/2008 7:57:52 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: elkfersupper

“It’s not sad, it’s not a mess, it’s not a horror story, and it’s long overdue.”

Bump for the most accurate take on this.

I will add that it IS sad if hard-working Americans who play by the normal mortgage rules, have to pay for this crap.

Did I say “if”....?


10 posted on 03/29/2008 8:01:22 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: EyeGuy

I think the latest phrase making the rounds is “No bailouts for dumbasses”.


11 posted on 03/29/2008 8:06:21 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: mojo114
You must not have much moder (last 1000 year ) experience in business. There is not one product or service provider that doesn't do zero down business. Either to build, or get, or establish new business, to carry old establish business, move stock piled merchandise...the list is endless.

When you work, you work a week, two weeks, or more if you are in sales, with no money up front or as you go. In a way, you give your employer zero down.

I don't see why houses shouldn't be financed just as cars, fridges, aircraft or anything else.

12 posted on 03/29/2008 8:10:44 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: elkfersupper
Yep.

L

13 posted on 03/29/2008 8:13:34 PM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: glorgau
What's the bailout? One guy gave, the other couldn't pay, the house he never was the owner of is taken back.

I get a kick out of people saying they lost ‘their’ house. Unless you got title, it isn't yours, and you can not ‘lose’ something of ‘yours’ that wasn’t ‘yours’ to begin with.

14 posted on 03/29/2008 8:14:11 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: Leisler

Hi, I see you are from Massachusetts, Well I lived in Mass. for a long time and not one bank would ever give a loan with zero down. Geez how did you get your house ?


15 posted on 03/29/2008 8:17:27 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: Lorianne

Big deal. You want to play then plan to win and lose.

Win big, lose big....... it is all part of the game. If you are a weak a$$ you’ll cry... and bbbbbuy gold.


16 posted on 03/29/2008 8:21:37 PM PDT by Porterville (I hasten karmic justice through revenge.)
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To: Leisler

No, the house was theirs. They had loan in which the house was used for collateral that they forfeited when they didn’t pay the loan.

I know, I’m splitting hairs here.


17 posted on 03/29/2008 8:22:19 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (Free Tibet!)
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To: mojo114
I asked, about 20 years ago, one of the wealthiest men in Massachusetts about getting money. He said he hadn't, and his father handn’t been to a bank in decades. By the way, the guy was doing such business, it didn't occur to him, and he wasn't aware of financing an auto.

Anyways, very few banks here do traditional in house note holding. A few, but only for select customers.( Why give up prime, steady returns, eh? )

I'd say that eighty percent are done by, or end up in a mortgage company. Who has the loan often changes in a year or so.

Lastly, Mass is in a weird place right now and long term is really sick. No population growth. Zero. Also population is getting elderly. Also, home occupancy rates are declining, that is the number of people in a house. So, the near long term is looking grim. No young people, no people, who the heck buy’s these houses the next decade?

18 posted on 03/29/2008 8:30:10 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: Lorianne

All PsOS!! I had a low opinion of real estate agents for years. Now, all that was simply confirmed. What I’m really mad about is the Fed, the U.S. taxpayer, bailing out Bear Stearns and seeing a**holes like Kudlow defending the bail out!


19 posted on 03/29/2008 8:31:33 PM PDT by levotb
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To: Lorianne

I know someone who works in Irvine. She said during the weeks of the New Century meltdown, you would drive by the Irvine Porsche dealer and it was flooded with lease returns. They would come in the morning and literly dozens of porsches were parked on the street in front of it and on the lot with the keys shoved in the mail slot with notes basically saying, “take it, we can’t pay for it anymore.”

I’ve witnessed this meltdown first hand as well. I work for a major US bank that is a heavy mortgage house. One of the groups I supported was the mortgage backed security broker dealer. It’s been sureal watching the whole thing unfold and that whole division crash and burn.
But when times where good, it was staggering how much money they were making and how quickly the deals were coming in.
But all based on liars loans aka alt-a and subprime toxic waste.


20 posted on 03/29/2008 8:32:08 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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