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Locals crack down on illegal immigration (Waaaaaa Alert!)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/29/08 | Monica Rhor - ap

Posted on 03/29/2008 10:27:37 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

HOUSTON - Mayra Figueroa — a naturalized U.S. citizen, community organizer and licensed driver — had no reason to fear being arrested, no need to worry about deported.

Then she was pulled over by a Houston police officer, who told her he found it suspicious that a Latina was driving a late-model car. The first thing the officer requested? Figueroa's Social Security card, as proof of citizenship.

Until now, few local police and sheriff's departments wanted any part of enforcing federal civil immigration laws. They had their hands full with local crime — and needed witnesses and victims to work with them without fear.

But as local governments feel mounting frustration over illegal immigration, that hands-off attitude is disappearing. More than 100 local law enforcement agencies — including Los Angeles and Orange counties in California and Maricopa County in Arizona, which includes Phoenix — have begun or are waiting for training to help the Department of Homeland Security root out illegal immigrants and hand them over for deportation.

Advocates say the training beefs up the power of the overworked Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agency. Detractors say it will discourage millions of immigrants from reporting crime or cooperating with police investigations. They also cite evidence of poor training and overeager cops, like the one who questioned Figueroa.

The ICE training program began 12 years ago in 1996, but had only one taker until 2002, when political pressure began to mount to fix the illegal immigration problem. Now 41 law enforcement agencies are trained, and 92 more are waiting in line.

Even in places where police departments have resisted enforcing immigration laws, elected officials and local governments have passed or are considering similar policies.

In Harris County, which includes Houston, sheriff's deputies routinely check the immigration status of anyone booked into the county jail.

In New Jersey, the Attorney General ordered police to ask arrested suspects about their immigration status. In Minnesota, Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty signed an executive order requiring state agents to enforce immigration law.

"When my deputies come across illegals, they arrest them — even on traffic violations," said Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio. "People ask me why I am taking this on? The last I heard, crossing the border is an illegal activity. I took an oath of office to enforce the law, so I am enforcing the law."

But some experts say it could spell the end of cooperating with police in immigrant neighborhoods.

"People are very, very fearful of interaction with law enforcement, said Susan Shah, with the New York-based Vera Institute of Justice, a nonprofit. "Even people with legal status, whose families may have mixed immigration status, now have a fear of opening the door."

That fear has been exacerbated by accounts — some rumored, some real — of people being turned over to immigration officials after being stopped for minor offenses such as traffic violations and loitering, or after going to police to report a crime.

In Newark, N.J., a freelance photographer who stumbled upon on a dead body in an alley and reported the discovery to police was detained and asked about his immigration status.

In Falls Church, Va., staffers at the Tarirhu Justice Center, which works with immigrant victims of domestic abuse, say they are fielding calls from women who have been assaulted, yet refuse to go to police.

"When there's confusion about what policy applies to you and when it does, the safe course of action is to avoid authorities altogether," said Jeanne Smoot, the center's director of public policy.

In Durham, N.C., police recently investigated a string of robberies targeting Latino immigrants, who the thieves saw as "soft targets" because they'd be reluctant to call police.

Only after officials reassured local residents that they would not be reported to ICE did they get the information needed to solve the cases, said Durham Police Chief Jose Lopez.

"If people are not reporting crimes, we don't know what is happening out there. It puts all of the community at risk," said Lopez.

Even so, the Durham police department does check the immigration status of anyone arrested, and has since been approved for the federal training program.

Such confusing, sometimes contradictory, policies and programs are only heightening immigrants' fear and mistrust, say immigrant advocates and community activists.

Mayra Figueroa, the woman stopped in Houston, agrees.

"I have been living here for the last 17 years, and to have an officer stop me for no reason and ask for papers, it made me feel like he didn't think I belong here," said Figueroa. "It makes people feel that anytime that something happens to you, you can't call police."


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1 posted on 03/29/2008 10:27:38 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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The buck stops at the WH and the chambers of Congre$$...

but they’re asleep at the wheel.


2 posted on 03/29/2008 10:29:54 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge
I never carry my SS card with me - for a number of good reasons.

I guess if the DL wasn't enough, I would invite the good officer to call ICE. Then, contact a good lawyer. Why drive a late model car, when you can have a new one?

The better time to ask for proof of citizenship would be, say, at voter registration, the local food stamp office and so on.

Illegals should take the hint from that - and with no food stamps, free medical and so on, would have no reason the stick around? Si?

3 posted on 03/29/2008 10:33:21 AM PDT by ASOC (I know I don't look like much, but I raised a US Marine!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"I have been living here for the last 17 years, and to have an officer stop me for no reason and ask for papers, it made me feel like he didn't think I belong here,"

Well, maybe if Hispanics weren't breaking the law so much, this wouldn't be happening, and I'll bet this broad has been aiding and abetting the illegals for years!

4 posted on 03/29/2008 10:35:38 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: ASOC

“I never carry my SS card with me - for a number of good reasons.”

Name one. It’s an ID.


5 posted on 03/29/2008 10:36:15 AM PDT by toddlintown (On Obama's moral compass, "N" doesn't stand for "North.")
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To: toddlintown

If you look at the back of a Social Security card, it clearly states it is not to be used for identification.


6 posted on 03/29/2008 10:39:35 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: NormsRevenge
SS card?
I haven't had a SS card since high school...over 30 years ago...LMAO

and pulling someone over ‘cause they don't look like they could afford the car they're driving is laughable...

me thinks this woman is telling a “clinton”...that's a “lie” for those who've been living under a rock for the past 10 years.

that said, with all the illegal gangs & illegal drugs floating around Houston; I think the cops need to get their priorities straight

7 posted on 03/29/2008 10:43:32 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: NormsRevenge

> “I have been living here for the last 17 years, and to have an officer stop me for no reason and ask for papers, it made me feel like he didn’t think I belong here,” said Figueroa. “It makes people feel that anytime that something happens to you, you can’t call police.”

A better answer would be “of course, officer. I understand. Here is my Social Security Card” — that is what a good, responsible citizen would do.


8 posted on 03/29/2008 10:44:04 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: toddlintown
Name one. It’s an ID.

If it's in my wallet and I lose it with my drivers license, it's everything someone needs to steal my identity.

9 posted on 03/29/2008 10:44:24 AM PDT by cryptical ("The future is already here; it's just not evenly distributed." - William Gibson)
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To: NormsRevenge
Then she was pulled over by a Houston police officer, who told her he found it suspicious that a Latina was driving a late-model car.

I call B.S.

10 posted on 03/29/2008 10:46:16 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (NAFTA opponents are an odd coalition of the no-deodorant Left and the toothless-and-tinfoil right.)
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To: liege
"If you look at the back of a Social Security card, it clearly states it is not to be used for identification..."

I think they stopped doing that a long time ago

I just looked at mine which I got back in 1974 and it says nothing of the sort.

11 posted on 03/29/2008 10:47:28 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: liege
Oops. It's actually on the front of my card.
12 posted on 03/29/2008 10:47:37 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: NormsRevenge

Note to local police:

Try looking in the parking lot of your local Home Depot, the local hospital emergency rooms, and your local social service (welfare) offices.

Make them gone!


13 posted on 03/29/2008 10:48:20 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: liege

“If you look at the back of a Social Security card, it clearly states it is not to be used for identification.”

Identification is different than proof of legal entry.


14 posted on 03/29/2008 10:49:13 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: Redleg Duke

Sounds like a Hilliary to me. A Houston cop with nothing else to do but stop folks for no reason? I really doubt that. Did she conveniently leave out a possible DUI or other violation? And then the paper prints such obvious garbage?


15 posted on 03/29/2008 10:50:26 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: NormsRevenge
These illegals not only jumped the border, but in many cases also stole someone's identity via their SS#. Now I am supposed to feel sorry for these people who, for all intensive purposes, have already demonstrated a pattern of criminality? NEGATIVE.
16 posted on 03/29/2008 10:51:49 AM PDT by jabonz08 (When rights become privileges, only the privileged will have rights.)
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To: Redleg Duke
I'll bet this broad has been aiding and abetting the illegals for years!

Such a stupid statement should be deleted from this forum.

17 posted on 03/29/2008 10:55:00 AM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: RavenATB
Identification is different than proof of legal entry.

When my grandparents legally came over from Russia in 1910 or so, they didn't have a Social Security card to show that they came in legally. They were issued one later when they became US citizens. The SS card is to be used for social security and tax purposes.

18 posted on 03/29/2008 10:55:02 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: NormsRevenge

One of the Detroit papers today reported that Mackinaw Island was going to be suffering for lack of workers this summer due to illegals not being able to work in the state. Boo hoo. Now maybe our college kids can get a summer job for a change.


19 posted on 03/29/2008 10:55:21 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: ASOC
I never carry my SS card with me - for a number of good reasons.

Mine is locked in the safe at home, as is my Armed Forces ID card. Both have my SSN on them, and if I lose my purse I sure don't want them floating around. I only pull out my ID card if I plan to go aboard Ft. Lewis for some reason.

20 posted on 03/29/2008 10:58:21 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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