[Melchior]

The number of European socialists qua Marxists who have bought property in the San Francisco Bay Area would astound you.

[oneolcop]

No, it wouldn't. I've written off California to the extent possible. I still have a daughter and two grandkids there and I still collect a pension from there, but the state and especially SF are lost.

Sad- my wife was born and later served in the Army on the Presidio of San Francisco. To see what has happened there is so very sad.