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The Secretary of State Thinks She's Suffering
Pajamasmedia.com/Ledeen ^ | March 28, 2008 | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 03/28/2008 3:56:52 PM PDT by nuconvert

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To: AnotherUnixGeek

slave:

— ORIGIN Old French esclave, from Latin sclava ‘Slavonic captive’: the Slavonic peoples had been reduced to a servile state by conquest in the 9th century.


21 posted on 03/28/2008 4:40:53 PM PDT by donna (McCain answers the red phone: "Hola!")
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To: the invisib1e hand

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/mar/05031401.html

http://www.ontheissues.org/Condoleezza_Rice.htm


22 posted on 03/28/2008 4:45:06 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: unspun
The Secretary of State is pro abortion, from what I gain.

That's not much of a contribution to the discussion. A non sequitur.

23 posted on 03/28/2008 4:46:29 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: gidget7

Here’s another NO.


24 posted on 03/28/2008 4:58:56 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: savedbygrace

//www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/mar/05031401.html

http://www.ontheissues.org/Condoleezza_Rice.htm

On The Issues will resort to anything to make itself look like a “balanced” outfit but to quote Richard Clarke saying that Rice “never heard of Al Qaeda before 2000” is pathetic.

First of all, Clarke could not possibly know what Rice knew or didn’t know while he was serving the Clinton administration and Rice was working at Stanford.

Secondly, Clarke is a dubious source of information on the people he served with in the Bush administration since he made his current reputation by stabbing them in the back.

I interviewed Clarke a few months before he did his Judas act for the 9/11 Commission, and he didn’t say one bad thing about Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, no one. Guess he hadn’t gotten the book contract yet.


25 posted on 03/28/2008 4:59:09 PM PDT by CZB
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To: the invisib1e hand
An aside, perhaps, but just for the record, is Obama a descendent of slaves?

The black half or the white half?

26 posted on 03/28/2008 5:04:39 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: CZB

The article at the first link contained quotes from Rice that pretty much settle the question. The second link (On the Issues) seems to be in agreement with those quotes, which apparently come from an interview with a Washington Times reporter.

So what’s your point?


27 posted on 03/28/2008 5:07:46 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: raybbr

I wonder if Obama has trouble with his white half oppressing his black half.


28 posted on 03/28/2008 5:08:53 PM PDT by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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To: unspun
The Secretary of State is pro abortion, from what I gain.


29 posted on 03/28/2008 5:10:43 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: Nachoman
I wonder if Obama has trouble with his white half oppressing his black half.

LOL. Sort of like Strangelove and his hand.


30 posted on 03/28/2008 5:12:43 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: nuconvert

This continuous hate from the U.S. blacks is totally unbelievable and totally foreign to me.

We don’t have that hate problem in Panama. Panama also has its black population. They came from the West Indies to build the Panama Canal. After the construction, some returned and some stayed. We have been very grateful to them. Had it not been for the West Indians, the canal would never have been built.

I want to mention that Juan Williams’ parents were of descendants of West Indians. He was born in Colon, Republic of Panama, and was taken to the States at an early age. I am willing to bet because of his West Indian heritage one will not find that hate in him.

I don’t know if I am making any sense.

It is a cultural thing.


31 posted on 03/28/2008 5:29:34 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“Go far back enough in history and it’s pretty much a certainty that everyone on the planet has an ancestor who was enslaved or forced to labor for others.”

I have at least one relative (GGGGGGGrandfather) who was an indentured servant. He was from Ireland.


32 posted on 03/28/2008 5:32:38 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: rovenstinez

Excellent!


33 posted on 03/28/2008 6:02:02 PM PDT by bricklayer
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To: the invisib1e hand

“An aside, perhaps, but just for the record, is Obama a descendent of slaves?”

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html

“Here is the truth about Mr. Obama’s name, and his father’s ancestors:

True Negro tribal members of western Kenya where his father was born have Christian names, not Arabic. His father’s decision to name him with an Arabic name is a matter of his father establishing his ethnic identity in Africa - it is done deliberately to separate him from the African tribes. He may live among them, but he is not one of them. His father’s message is that he is Arabic, not Negro.

Many will find these truths unsettling. I’m often asked, “But I thought his father was Kenyan. How could Mr. Obama not be African-American, how could his ethnic composition be so Arabic?”

The definitive clue to that answer is to look at his name, his father’s name, and the names of all his ancestors on his father’s side. They are all Arabic.

Researching his roots reveal that on his father’s side, he is descended from Arab slave traders. They operated under an extended grant from Queen Victoria, who gave them the right to continue the slave trade in exchange for helping the British defeat the Madhi Army in southern Sudan and the Upper Nile region...”


34 posted on 03/28/2008 6:13:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

And even among the Nigerians who come to the USA, I find that they often prefer to hang around the white people..... Black Cubans who spoke Spanish, tried to gravitate to the Hispanic groups and often felt rejected and ended up speaking Ebonese.


35 posted on 03/28/2008 6:16:50 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: the invisib1e hand
The Secretary of State is pro abortion, from what I gain.

How do you gain this?

Web searching is a wonderful thing. ;-`

"Condoleezza Rice" AND abortion

36 posted on 03/28/2008 6:19:16 PM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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To: Misterioso
The Secretary of State is pro abortion, from what I gain.

That's not much of a contribution to the discussion. A non sequitur.

Not hardly.

Let me expand. Condoleezza Rice is pro abortion. Therefore, it makes no difference what may be her other faults. Politically, Condoleezza Rice is a non starter for those who with intellectual honesty call themselves conservative.

37 posted on 03/28/2008 6:22:53 PM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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To: nuconvert
Yep, Chinese, Japanese, Armenian, Greek, etc. immigrants to the US never felt sh** on as the blacks do, because they were always treated equally with whites./SAR What a crock of crap Ms. Rice is putting out. What party is she with? Oh, that's right she is a republican. I guess she is pulling for Obama to be president judging by her statements.

It is the whites turn in the barrel everyone, let's just roll over and take it up the a**.

38 posted on 03/28/2008 6:26:16 PM PDT by calex59
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To: unspun
Web searching is a wonderful thing. ;-`

Just ready to take pretty much anything I find on the net with a grain of salt.

Would reserve judgment myself until I saw it in context from a reputable source.

39 posted on 03/28/2008 6:27:00 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Free New York)
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To: nuconvert

It’s high time that blacks stop the victum deal and start celebrating the freedom we all have.


40 posted on 03/28/2008 6:32:06 PM PDT by alarm rider ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -)
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