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The Secretary of State Thinks She's Suffering
Pajamasmedia.com/Ledeen ^ | March 28, 2008 | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 03/28/2008 3:56:52 PM PDT by nuconvert

The Secretary of State Thinks She's Suffering

Michael Ledeen

March 28, 2008

After listening to the (excellent!) weather forecast (mid-seventies) and walking the dog in the woods near us, I made my morning tea and opened the Washington Times to find the secretary of state talking about race again:

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States still has trouble dealing with race because of a national “birth defect” that denied black Americans the opportunities given to whites at the country’s very founding.

“Black Americans were a founding population,” she said. “Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together — Europeans by choice and Africans in chains. That’s not a very pretty reality of our founding.”

As a result, Miss Rice told editors and reporters at The Washington Times, “descendants of slaves did not get much of a head start, and I think you continue to see some of the effects of that.”

“That particular birth defect makes it hard for us to confront it, hard for us to talk about it, and hard for us to realize that it has continuing relevance for who we are today,” she said.

Secretary Rice is a highly educated and sophisticated woman who, like many who have risen from modest circumstances to great heights, sometimes seems to suffer pangs of guilt for her great success. And so, it seems to me, she is vulnerable to one of the more common intellectual/emotional traps of our time, which is the yearning to believe in our own victimhood. I have good standing to pronounce on this subject, being a Jew, for a great deal of Jewish self-identity involves precisely that cult of victimhood. A famous Jewish joke tells of a man complaining about the miseries of his life, to which another remarks, “so look who thinks he’s suffering.” There is now an open competition throughout the Western world for the title of “most victimized.” It’s ridiculous, of course, not least because those truly oppressed and suffering rarely get the same chance for freedom and success that the Western whiners have.

She is quite right to say that slavery has relevance to American Blacks’ sense of themselves. How could it be otherwise? Just as the Jews’ slavery, oppression, and genocide are relevant to our sense of ourselves (our constant anxiety about the fragility of our success, whether in Israel, America or elsewhere), so Black slavery, the institutionalized racist oppression of Blacks for a century after the formal abolition of slavery, and the continued negative attitudes toward Blacks among other Americans, is a source of anger and anxiety.

But the subject is much more complicated than she seems to think, and she seems unaware that most Americans no longer find it difficult to talk about past and present racism, nor to embrace one another across “racial” lines. For many years now, she has lived in a cultural cocoon, whether on the politically correct campus of Stanford University, or the cubes in the NSC offices in the White House and the Old Executive Office Building, or the State Department. It seems to me that she has little direct experience with the melting pot of America, where “intermarriage” is rampant. This is nowhere more dramatic than the military, and I think she’d be astonished to see the extent to which racial and ethnic distinctions have vanished in our armed forces. We recently had the exhilarating experience of spending five days on a Marine base, where ethnicity is melting away, and it is really quite impossible to define soldiers, and even more so their children, in ethnic terms. And yes, history is a factor in their identities, but it is still history, it is not today and will be less of a weight tomorrow.

It would be good to hear an American secretary of state talk along those lines, I wish she had more a sense of the dynamics of American society. Those young men and women in the armed forces are a cross section of America, far more than her peers at the academy or in the government. Instead, she finds it emotionally satisfying to talk about the victimization of her ancestors, and of herself when she was younger. Some of her words are even plaintive, which she does not seem to realize are inappropriate for a person who has risen to great heights.

Secretary Rice attracted a lot of attention a while back when she told a group of Palestinians that she understood their suffering, because she came from a people who had similarly suffered under unjust oppression. But that sort of statement is unworthy of a serious person, because “victims of oppression” is not a universal category. We are all victims in one sense or another, and we do not automatically understand one another by slapping that label on everyone who whines, or even on everyone who is really oppressed. It takes serious study and hard thinking to recognize the enormous differences between Palestinians–most of whom are oppressed by other Palestinians, or by “brother Arabs,”–and American Blacks, almost all of whom were enslaved by others. The whole basis for the oppression, and thus its content, is different. Unfortunately, she only looked at one slice of the Palestinians’ woes–their domination by Israelis in Gaza and the West Bank–instead of coming to grips with the more difficult context.

Later in the interview, she says that, even in the worst times, black Americans loved America and believed in America. I’ll take her word for it, and if it is true it is because they knew that America, despite slavery, was fundamentally committed to the equality of all. No Palestinian believes that his society is committed to human equality. Unless we get these distinctions right we shall get the policy wrong, as night follows day. She is muddying the waters.

“We were slaves in the land of Egypt,” we Jews say every Passover, at the beginning of the celebration of the Exodus. That’s a good model for all those who were oppressed, and eventually found freedom. If she had said “we were slaves in the land of America,” and then gone on to celebrate the abolition of slavery and then the civil rights fight, and now the remarkable rise of a black upper class that is an integral part of the country’s elite, I would have cheered. America is supposed to be about freedom, and the opportunity to excel. No one more fully embodies the American Dream than the secretary of state, and she should lead the celebration instead of whining that discussions of race are sometimes difficult. I doubt it, frankly. But even if it were true, so what? Lots of worthwhile endeavors are difficult. Get on with it.

And by the way–just to add one more layer of complexity–I wonder if she would be surprised to learn that there are plenty of Africans who are convinced of the inferiority of black Americans, on the grounds that they were enslaved, and therefore weak. The Africans know that winning tribes enslaved the losers, and some of the enslaved losers were sold to Arabs, Europeans and Americans. Does Secretary Rice think that Africans find it difficult to discuss this matter? Did she raise the subject in her conversations with African leaders? I first heard about this from Africans, and they did not seem to me to have any trouble talking about it.

So look who thinks she’s suffering, I would say to her. Try being an Iranian, or any woman in the Middle East (aside from Israel), or a pretty girl most anywhere in the Third World who is an automatic target for the sex traffickers, or a Syrian, or an African threatened with death in various forms (disease, starvation, massacre) every day. That’s real suffering. Today. Not a generation ago. Our mission is not to encourage discussion, but to fight these evils, as we’ve so often done. It’s discouraging to hear the secretary of state sound like Michelle Obama in her more unfortunate moments.


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To: AnotherUnixGeek

slave:

— ORIGIN Old French esclave, from Latin sclava ‘Slavonic captive’: the Slavonic peoples had been reduced to a servile state by conquest in the 9th century.


21 posted on 03/28/2008 4:40:53 PM PDT by donna (McCain answers the red phone: "Hola!")
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To: the invisib1e hand

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/mar/05031401.html

http://www.ontheissues.org/Condoleezza_Rice.htm


22 posted on 03/28/2008 4:45:06 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: unspun
The Secretary of State is pro abortion, from what I gain.

That's not much of a contribution to the discussion. A non sequitur.

23 posted on 03/28/2008 4:46:29 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: gidget7

Here’s another NO.


24 posted on 03/28/2008 4:58:56 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: savedbygrace

//www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/mar/05031401.html

http://www.ontheissues.org/Condoleezza_Rice.htm

On The Issues will resort to anything to make itself look like a “balanced” outfit but to quote Richard Clarke saying that Rice “never heard of Al Qaeda before 2000” is pathetic.

First of all, Clarke could not possibly know what Rice knew or didn’t know while he was serving the Clinton administration and Rice was working at Stanford.

Secondly, Clarke is a dubious source of information on the people he served with in the Bush administration since he made his current reputation by stabbing them in the back.

I interviewed Clarke a few months before he did his Judas act for the 9/11 Commission, and he didn’t say one bad thing about Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, no one. Guess he hadn’t gotten the book contract yet.


25 posted on 03/28/2008 4:59:09 PM PDT by CZB
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To: the invisib1e hand
An aside, perhaps, but just for the record, is Obama a descendent of slaves?

The black half or the white half?

26 posted on 03/28/2008 5:04:39 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: CZB

The article at the first link contained quotes from Rice that pretty much settle the question. The second link (On the Issues) seems to be in agreement with those quotes, which apparently come from an interview with a Washington Times reporter.

So what’s your point?


27 posted on 03/28/2008 5:07:46 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: raybbr

I wonder if Obama has trouble with his white half oppressing his black half.


28 posted on 03/28/2008 5:08:53 PM PDT by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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To: unspun
The Secretary of State is pro abortion, from what I gain.


29 posted on 03/28/2008 5:10:43 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: Nachoman
I wonder if Obama has trouble with his white half oppressing his black half.

LOL. Sort of like Strangelove and his hand.


30 posted on 03/28/2008 5:12:43 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: nuconvert

This continuous hate from the U.S. blacks is totally unbelievable and totally foreign to me.

We don’t have that hate problem in Panama. Panama also has its black population. They came from the West Indies to build the Panama Canal. After the construction, some returned and some stayed. We have been very grateful to them. Had it not been for the West Indians, the canal would never have been built.

I want to mention that Juan Williams’ parents were of descendants of West Indians. He was born in Colon, Republic of Panama, and was taken to the States at an early age. I am willing to bet because of his West Indian heritage one will not find that hate in him.

I don’t know if I am making any sense.

It is a cultural thing.


31 posted on 03/28/2008 5:29:34 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“Go far back enough in history and it’s pretty much a certainty that everyone on the planet has an ancestor who was enslaved or forced to labor for others.”

I have at least one relative (GGGGGGGrandfather) who was an indentured servant. He was from Ireland.


32 posted on 03/28/2008 5:32:38 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: rovenstinez

Excellent!


33 posted on 03/28/2008 6:02:02 PM PDT by bricklayer
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To: the invisib1e hand

“An aside, perhaps, but just for the record, is Obama a descendent of slaves?”

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html

“Here is the truth about Mr. Obama’s name, and his father’s ancestors:

True Negro tribal members of western Kenya where his father was born have Christian names, not Arabic. His father’s decision to name him with an Arabic name is a matter of his father establishing his ethnic identity in Africa - it is done deliberately to separate him from the African tribes. He may live among them, but he is not one of them. His father’s message is that he is Arabic, not Negro.

Many will find these truths unsettling. I’m often asked, “But I thought his father was Kenyan. How could Mr. Obama not be African-American, how could his ethnic composition be so Arabic?”

The definitive clue to that answer is to look at his name, his father’s name, and the names of all his ancestors on his father’s side. They are all Arabic.

Researching his roots reveal that on his father’s side, he is descended from Arab slave traders. They operated under an extended grant from Queen Victoria, who gave them the right to continue the slave trade in exchange for helping the British defeat the Madhi Army in southern Sudan and the Upper Nile region...”


34 posted on 03/28/2008 6:13:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

And even among the Nigerians who come to the USA, I find that they often prefer to hang around the white people..... Black Cubans who spoke Spanish, tried to gravitate to the Hispanic groups and often felt rejected and ended up speaking Ebonese.


35 posted on 03/28/2008 6:16:50 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: the invisib1e hand
The Secretary of State is pro abortion, from what I gain.

How do you gain this?

Web searching is a wonderful thing. ;-`

"Condoleezza Rice" AND abortion

36 posted on 03/28/2008 6:19:16 PM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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To: Misterioso
The Secretary of State is pro abortion, from what I gain.

That's not much of a contribution to the discussion. A non sequitur.

Not hardly.

Let me expand. Condoleezza Rice is pro abortion. Therefore, it makes no difference what may be her other faults. Politically, Condoleezza Rice is a non starter for those who with intellectual honesty call themselves conservative.

37 posted on 03/28/2008 6:22:53 PM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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To: nuconvert
Yep, Chinese, Japanese, Armenian, Greek, etc. immigrants to the US never felt sh** on as the blacks do, because they were always treated equally with whites./SAR What a crock of crap Ms. Rice is putting out. What party is she with? Oh, that's right she is a republican. I guess she is pulling for Obama to be president judging by her statements.

It is the whites turn in the barrel everyone, let's just roll over and take it up the a**.

38 posted on 03/28/2008 6:26:16 PM PDT by calex59
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To: unspun
Web searching is a wonderful thing. ;-`

Just ready to take pretty much anything I find on the net with a grain of salt.

Would reserve judgment myself until I saw it in context from a reputable source.

39 posted on 03/28/2008 6:27:00 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Free New York)
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To: nuconvert

It’s high time that blacks stop the victum deal and start celebrating the freedom we all have.


40 posted on 03/28/2008 6:32:06 PM PDT by alarm rider ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -)
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