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To: Terriergal

The PCA is conservative, at least for now, but there are elements within the PCA that are trying to liberalize it. The OPC (Orthodox Presbyterian Church) is still very conservative. The Christian Reformed Church went the way of the liberals.

Right now, my husand and I stay home on Sundays and listen to sermons online, because there are no conservative Reformed churches in our area. We had considered going to a LCMS church, even though we’re plain Presbyterians and don’t go for all their high church falderal, because there was one LCMS church in our area that still had a traditional service and pretty good, serious biblical preaching (even though not Reformed), but they are starting to get a little loosey-goosey now, too.

We live in a suburb of a medium-sized city, and we can’t find one good, conservative church that preaches from the Bible and has a traditional service that is within reasonable driving distance (I’m talking less than an hour) from where we live. We are quite discouraged.


73 posted on 03/29/2008 1:57:12 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

I hear ya.... this is becoming a very common story. :-(

ever listen to Bob Dewaay?? he has some great stuff online

Http://www.twincityfellowship.com

and

http://www.cicministry.org


75 posted on 03/29/2008 4:31:06 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Right now, my husand and I stay home on Sundays and listen to sermons online, because there are no conservative Reformed churches in our area.

That doesn't sound healthy.

Could I point you to this post, most specifically this excerpt:

In the early 19th century the Dutch Reformed Church had come under state control. In the cabinet a 'Minister for Religious Matters' had been appointed and there were few queries in the Christian denomination about such a development; none from its hierarchy. Generations of its ministers had been drinking from the springs of the Enlightenment. It was said that a Muslim would have been welcomed into many pulpits. Yet there was the remnant keeping the faith who were aided by old writers like Brakel.

Then in the 1830s an awakening took place in several countries in Europe, especially in Switzerland, a return to orthodoxy under Monod and the Haldane brothers, César Malan and Merle d'Aubigné. During that period Chalmers was pressing for reform in Scotland and there was a work of God going on there. In Holland God raised up half a dozen young ministers who first worked independently and then were drawn together to challenge the prevailing orthodoxy of the church. They reprinted the Church Order of Dordrecht; they encouraged their congregations to sing metrical psalms. They baptized babies brought to them by parents from neighbouring parishes where the ministers were modernists. The reaction was swift: ministers were deposed and sessions were forbidden to hold worship services.

The people so bereft of their preachers appealed to the king of Holland to whom they had given unqualified allegiance, but no help came from him. In November of 1834 the first congregation seceded from the state church. Their official Act of Secession was entitled the 'Act of Return' that is, what they desired was a return to confessional Christianity.

It gives me hope. The Church has been troubled before, by large scale apostacy. God has been faithful.

Could I also point you to Rev. Kim Riddelbarger's pointers on what it takes to plant a United Reformed Church congregation. (The URC started with a bunch of churches that bolted when the CRC started ordaining women. Scattered and few, but they appear solid. I think there might be, like, all of two in my state.)

We live in a suburb of a medium-sized city, and we can’t find one good, conservative church that preaches from the Bible and has a traditional service that is within reasonable driving distance (I’m talking less than an hour) from where we live. We are quite discouraged.

I feel for you.

77 posted on 03/29/2008 5:12:49 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("dispensationalism -- the eschatology of the Pharisees")
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