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To: jimmyray
Learn more about Christianity by reading the Gospel of John.

I pretty much got the gist. An all-knowing, all-loving God created human beings, knowing all the time that the vast majority would end up being tormented in Hell forever... except for those few who accepted Jesus.

What would you say about a father who tortures his children?

80 posted on 03/27/2008 6:02:36 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Human beings alone are responsible for their sins—free will and all that. They bring judgment upon themselves, not God/Jesus/the Holy Spirit. That’s the whole reason God sacrificed *Himself* for us “...that none should perish, no, not one...” :*)

God doesn’t force anyone to believe in Him or Jesus or the Holy Spirit. If we choose not to, then we are responsible for all the consequences. No torturing involved.


86 posted on 03/27/2008 6:10:06 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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To: Ken H
What would you say about a father who tortures his children?

Adam was created by God, not born of God. God only has one Child, Jesus! The brothers and sisters of Christ are those that are born again and adopted into his family throught the cleansing blood of Jesus.

If God recreated the world PERFECTLY, with no sin, disease, or chance of death, and put anyone and their chosen spouse there with their current nature (personality, opinions, vices, etc.), and they had children, how long would it that world remain perfect?

How do you think we got to our current state? The scenario above is exactly what happened to Adam and whats-her-name.

If God had made Adam where he could not choose to go his own way, we all would simply be automatons, mere robots without free will. God wanted his creation to choose to love him, not be forced to. Thus free will, sin, condemnation, and redemption.

88 posted on 03/27/2008 6:14:09 PM PDT by jimmyray
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