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Patriot Act used in drug case; lawyer riled
Wichita Eagle ^ | Mar. 25, 2008 | Tim Potter

Posted on 03/27/2008 6:29:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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Terrorism is like the Commerce Clause: it applies to everything.
1 posted on 03/27/2008 6:29:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m shocked!


2 posted on 03/27/2008 6:31:28 AM PDT by Wolfie
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” defense lawyer Charles O’Hara argued that the Patriot Act was meant for “serious matters involving national security,” not drug cases like the one involving his client, Tyrone Andrews.”

Wonder is his attitude would change if Tyrone turned his daughter into a crack whore?


3 posted on 03/27/2008 6:33:02 AM PDT by Into the Vortex
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To: Into the Vortex

IF, not is....


4 posted on 03/27/2008 6:33:33 AM PDT by Into the Vortex
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Didn’t see this coming.


5 posted on 03/27/2008 6:33:43 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Gone fishin.)
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"I thought that this Patriot Act was something passed to protect us all from these terrorist acts, and it would be used very judiciously," O'Hara said Monday. "This doesn't seem to be one where these secret searches would be used."

As far as I'm concerned, drug trafficers are terrorists. The bring violence to our nation and harm our people, the funds often trace back to terrorist or repressive activities around the world.

6 posted on 03/27/2008 6:35:45 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Well, at least they will never come for our guns. /s


7 posted on 03/27/2008 6:36:48 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Into the Vortex

“Wonder is his attitude would change if Tyrone turned his daughter into a crack whore?”

Probably, does that change his argument though? Either we have rights protected by the Constitution or we don’t. If the govt picks and chooses what rights they allow us to keep and which laws they obey themselves then we are not a free country.

Freedom is more important to me than the life choices somebody else makes for themselves.


8 posted on 03/27/2008 6:38:32 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To play devil’s advocate, at least they didn’t no-knock it, and kill someone.


9 posted on 03/27/2008 6:39:13 AM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: HamiltonJay

If you want to stop the violence and the money flow, decriminalize it. People don’t shoot each other over booze - but they did during Prohibition.


10 posted on 03/27/2008 6:40:30 AM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Into the Vortex
” defense lawyer Charles O’Hara argued that the Patriot Act was meant for “serious matters involving national security,” not drug cases like the one involving his client, Tyrone Andrews.”

Wonder is his attitude would change if Tyrone turned his daughter into a crack whore?

I think it is the parent's job to best ensure the daughter does not become a crack whore before adulthood.

Your question deviates from the subject and his statement. We do not want this camel to get its nose in the tent.

11 posted on 03/27/2008 6:41:04 AM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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As far as I'm concerned, drug trafficers are terrorists. The bring violence to our nation and harm our people, the funds often trace back to terrorist or repressive activities around the world.

Drug traffickers are not terrorists but some terrorists do use drugs to finance their activities. To imply otherwise is to open the door wide for complete revocation of all natural rights enjoyed by Americans. We've spent billions on the war on drugs. The only answer law enforcement seems to have is that we have too many rights.

12 posted on 03/27/2008 6:44:19 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Into the Vortex

You must remember lawyers have two roles. If it turned his daughter then he would be a father and someone else would have to defend the criminal. It is all about money,common sense and justice plays not part into a lawyers livelyhood
or so called profession.The Criminal Justice System in America is a farce.


13 posted on 03/27/2008 6:44:50 AM PDT by gunnedah
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So are people who own guns. Ask any federal prosecutor who wants to take a run at a gun owner under the Patriot Act.


14 posted on 03/27/2008 6:49:33 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Like we all didn’t see this coming, eh?


15 posted on 03/27/2008 6:51:58 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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As far as I'm concerned, drug trafficers are terrorists.

How silly.

16 posted on 03/27/2008 6:52:44 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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“As far as I’m concerned, drug trafficers are terrorists. The bring violence to our nation and harm our people, the funds often trace back to terrorist or repressive activities around the world.”

Nonsense. You apply this to drug traffickers, you start the slippery slope. Who’s next? Where will a president like Hillary Clinton or Hussein Obama apply this? The Patriot Act was intended to stop true terrorist acts like 9/11.

I have already seen some of these laws be used to go after things outside of terrorism. Once again, my libertarian streak proves itself right. The government should not be trusted with too much authority.


17 posted on 03/27/2008 6:53:18 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Crips gang distributing drugs? Rev. Wright says it’s our government doing it.


18 posted on 03/27/2008 6:53:18 AM PDT by ladyjane
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Rev. Wright says it’s our government doing it.

Heh heh heh.

19 posted on 03/27/2008 6:54:19 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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Wonder is his attitude would change if Tyrone turned his daughter into a crack whore?

Would your attitude about the Constitutionality of the Second Amendment change if your daughter were shot?

The Constitution is evidently a "living document" when it suits you.

20 posted on 03/27/2008 6:54:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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