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To: wagglebee
First of all, Ryan was a historian – A Bridge Too Far, The Longest Day and The Final Battle are widely respected, meticulously researched and exhaustively documented histories. Your apparent ignorance of that fact is strange.

Secondly, I was not directly equating the circumstances nor attempting to “win” an argument through comparison, but rather, using examples of known situations to probe the boundaries of your ethics beliefs. It’s called the dialectical process…common in things like “philosophy” and “comparative religious thought” and “law”.

I told you I was genuinely interested in your thoughts on the story, and that wasn’t a “trick” of debate. You obviously have a belief about suicide and assisted-suicide, but apparently you’re not capable of voicing your thoughts in an intelligent manner or your beliefs are based on “Because X Says So” and you don’t have any independent complex insight into your feelings on the subjects. Which makes me wonder why you bother posting on this forum.

75 posted on 03/27/2008 8:52:58 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Psycho_Bunny; Mrs. Don-o; 8mmMauser
First of all, Ryan was a historian – A Bridge Too Far, The Longest Day and The Final Battle are widely respected, meticulously researched and exhaustively documented histories. Your apparent ignorance of that fact is strange.

You are correct, it is an historical piece; nevertheless, I never questioned the validity or the morality of what was done.

Secondly, I was not directly equating the circumstances nor attempting to “win” an argument through comparison, but rather, using examples of known situations to probe the boundaries of your ethics beliefs. It’s called the dialectical process…common in things like “philosophy” and “comparative religious thought” and “law”.

My pro-life views are well established on this forum. But for the record, I am 100% opposed to euthanasia in any form.

I told you I was genuinely interested in your thoughts on the story, and that wasn’t a “trick” of debate. You obviously have a belief about suicide and assisted-suicide, but apparently you’re not capable of voicing your thoughts in an intelligent manner or your beliefs are based on “Because X Says So” and you don’t have any independent complex insight into your feelings on the subjects. Which makes me wonder why you bother posting on this forum.

Again, I believe it is morally wrong, I do not subscribe to any form of "moral relativism" or whatever else you seem to advocate. When discussing very simple matters of morality ("Thou shalt not kill"), it is unnecessary to get into any "complex insight" or whatever other nuanced philosophies you want to use to confuse the situation.

And no, this is not a "debate," Free Republic is a conservative, pro-life forum, for you or any of your ilk to suggest that we should be "open" to your pro-death agenda is insulting. Perhaps the real question is why YOU are on this forum.

78 posted on 03/27/2008 9:09:07 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Psycho_Bunny; wagglebee
>>Which makes me wonder why you bother posting on this forum.

That is funny! It brings some comic relief to the serious tone of the thread. You really touched on the ironic with that one considering it is a thread started by wagglebee in the first place, and we are all pro-lifers on a pro-life forum.

The rest of your post doesn't have the same quality of fine humor, however, as you make the acts of suicide and euthanasia sound almost as if it were a difference of opinion rather than a simple stand of pro-life faith against the faithless and pro-death.

It could just be me, though, as I caught your funny punch line but haven't caught the rest of your subtle comedy. Maybe I was too serious to realize you are just pulling our legs. Right?

And you are teasing us with that fun word, "dialectical" as if we were talking Karl Marx or Groucho. We aren't, are we?

87 posted on 03/27/2008 10:47:37 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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