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Unsettled Science -- The Deniers XV
National Post ^ | March 14, 2007 | Lawrence Solomon

Posted on 03/26/2008 5:00:47 AM PDT by Delacon

Carl Wunsch, professor of physical oceanography at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, has been wronged. In The Great Global Warming Swindle, a no-holds-barred documentary that aired last week in the United Kingdom and will soon be coming to TV sets in North America, he was cast as a partisan in the climate-change debate. That he is not.

He was also cast as impugning the motives of scientists who employ complex computer models to predict the climate 50 or 100 years into the future. That he also did not do. Neither does he subscribe to the theory, championed in the documentary, that the sun and not carbon dioxide explains climate change

Director Martin Durkin's documentary -- the rival of Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth for brash claims, selective presentations of the facts, and disdain for the opposing side's views -- is destined to raise a storm of controversy in the climate-change debate, with Dr. Wunsch destined to be uncomfortably at its centre.

Yet despite the untoward liberties taken by the documentary producers, there is little at dispute of substance. Here, in detail, is the documentary's sole misrepresentation of fact involving Dr. Wunsch.

In a discussion about the nature of computer models that attempt to predict Earth's climate, the narrator introduced his views by saying "there is a danger, according to Prof. Carl Wunsch, that modellers will be less concerned in producing a forecast that is accurate than one that is interesting."

The narrator, some might well conclude, is hinting at ill-will on the part of the modellers, a conclusion buttressed by statements to this effect from other scientists in the documentary. Dr. Wunsch is understandably upset at being seen to criticize colleagues whom he didn't intend to criticize, and to criticize climate modelling, which he views as a necessary scientific tool.

Yet from what Dr. Wunsch did say, it is easy to see why Mr. Durkin would think he took computer-model results with a grain of salt. "The models are so complicated you can often adjust them in such a way that they do something very exciting," he said.

The Full Deniers series

Statistics needed -- The Deniers Part I
Warming is real -- and has benefits -- The Deniers Part II
The hurricane expert who stood up to UN junk science -- The Deniers Part III
Polar scientists on thin ice -- The Deniers Part IV
The original denier: into the cold -- The Deniers Part V
The sun moves climate change -- The Deniers Part VI
Will the sun cool us? -- The Deniers Part VII
The limits of predictability -- The Deniers Part VIII
Look to Mars for the truth on global warming -- The Deniers Part IX
Limited role for C02 -- the Deniers Part X
End the chill -- The Deniers Part XI
Clouded research -- The Deniers Part XII
Allegre's second thoughts -- The Deniers XIII
The heat's in the sun -- The Deniers XIV
Unsettled Science -- The Deniers XV

Dr. Wunsch may not have pointed to conscious wrongdoing on the part of scientists, but he certainly made it abundantly clear that scientists, being human, are susceptible to human frailties: "You see, it's a problem. If I run a complicated model and I do something to it like melt a lot of ice into the ocean and nothing happens, it's not likely to get printed. But if I run the same model and I adjust it in such a way that something dramatic happens to the ocean circulation, like the heat transport turns off, it will be published. People will say, 'This is very exciting.' It will even get picked up by the media. So there is a bias, there is a very powerful bias within the media and within the science community itself toward results which are dramatizable."

This segment of the documentary, I believe from my interview with Dr. Wunsch, is the only explicit portrayal of him that could in any way be considered egregious. The rest of Dr. Wunsch's complaints lie more with optics: He didn't like to be seen in the company of scientists who are aggressive participants in the climate-change debate, as if he shared their views, and he didn't like the in-your-face title of the documentary, with its use of the word "swindle" and the accusation that the public has been lied to by those issuing dire warnings of global change.

Yet even here, the difference between the director and the professor is more style than substance. There is precious little of a factual nature in the documentary that Dr. Wunsch would object to.

The big "lie" to which the documentary refers -- the only lie that it explicitly claims -- is that the science is settled on global warming. "Campaigners say the time for debate is over. Any criticism, no matter how scientifically rigorous, is illegitimate, even worse, dangerous," the narrator states at the beginning of the documentary, in setting out his theme. "Everywhere you are told that manmade climate change is proved beyond doubt. But you are being told lies." The film then establishes that the science is not settled "beyond doubt" by filming a series of commentators, among them prominent academics who had been participants in the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Whether these academics are right or not in their beliefs about the role of C02 and the perils of global warming, they prove Mr. Durkin's point: The science is not settled.

Dr. Wunsch's on-film persona does not make this point directly -- he more does this indirectly, by explaining, for example, that the temperature of the oceans today can reflect events hundreds or thousands of years ago, rather than any recent climate change. But off-screen Dr. Wunsch -- and this will surprise him -- fits the alarmists' stereotype of the global-warming denier. From Mr. Durkin's perspective, he and Dr. Wunsch are fellow travellers in their view of the claims of alarmists. Dr. Wunsch, for example, does not accept that the science is settled, anything but. And when he speaks of limiting C02 production, he does so dispassionately and with balance, and with no pretense of having all the answers.

"Also muddled is what we should do about it. Should we be limiting C02 by 10%?" he asked me rhetorically. "It seems like a good idea, quite apart from the climate, because fossil fuels are a non-renewable resource." But don't push Dr. Wunsch into advocating some crash program to stop global warming, even though he believes some precautions are called for.

Likening the dilemma facing government to that of a homeowner who must decide how much insurance he needs to protect against threats such as faulty wiring, he says at some point the insurance becomes a bad investment. Better to accept the risk, or to rewire the house, than to overpay for insurance that may never be needed. And better to stop making any potential problem worse, such as by the government's "crazy public policy to subsidize Florida developments" along the coastline through cut-rate insurance premiums, which only encourage people to live in low-lying, disaster-prone areas.

Most of all, Dr. Wunsch is repulsed by the nature of the debate. "The science isn't mature to the point where anyone can say with any confidence that the Greenland ice sheet will melt," he says. "Both extremes have reduced the debate to a cartoon war, like a Batman movie." He does not spare the camp that Mr. Durkin attacks, decrying the "hysterical" claims of alarmists, such as their warnings that global warming might shut down the Gulf Stream or propel Britain into a new ice age -- these "are either scientifically impossible or so unlikely as to threaten our credibility as a scientific discipline if we proclaim their reality," he says.

His overriding complaint, in the end, is that he didn't bargain for a starring role in a Batman movie. If it's any consolation to him, many of his co-stars are scientists of the highest calibre, and they share his disgust for the politicized debate that they are engaged in. They mainly differ from him in that they blame the UN's panel on climate change for the disrepute that has come to science, where he blames the filmmaker who too aggressively amplifies their frustrations.

LawrenceSolomon@nextcity.com

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- Lawrence Solomon is executive director of Urban Renaissance Institute and Consumer Policy Institute, divisions of Energy Probe Research Foundation.

CV OF A DENIER:

Carl Wunsch is Cecil and Ida Green Professor of Physical Oceanography, Department of Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology. After receiving his doctorate in geophysics from MIT in 1966, he joined the faculty at the institute, becoming head of the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences from 1977 to 1981. His many honours include the Henry Stommel Research Prize and the Bowie Medal from the American Geophysical Union. He is also a foreign member of the Royal Society.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alarmists; climatechange; globalwarming; skeptics
I was going through my bookmarks and stumbled on this series by Lawrence Solomon of the National Post. I did a FR search and sure enough the ever vigilant FR posters didn't disappoint. Freeper Libwhacker had posted the first article in the series on 2/5/07. However at that time there were only 10 parts in the series and links to the other 9 parts in the series are only referenced in follow up posts on that thread. Since then the total number of parts in the series has grown to 27 with the last article dated 6/15/07. I checked as best I could but I don't think anyone posted any follow ups to the first in the series(my apologies if I missed anyone's efforts). Now I know that this series is a little bit dated but I can't think of a more comprehensive and fair coverage(don't let the frequent use of the term "deniers" throw ya) of climate change skepticism has been done since. This series does a thorough point by point analysis of the issues skeptics have with the so called "consensus". Heck, it not only uses frequent references to some of the biggest names in skepticism but then sites their CVs. Anyway, I am posting all 27 articles(if the administrators will let me) but here is the main site with links to all parts in the series if you don't want to wait. Dis is gonna take a lot of work.
 

Climate change: The Deniers

National Post  Published: Friday, February 09, 2007

Earth

The Post's series on scientists who buck the conventional wisdom on climate science. Here is the series so far:

Statistics needed -- The Deniers Part I
Warming is real -- and has benefits -- The Deniers Part II
The hurricane expert who stood up to UN junk science -- The Deniers Part III
Polar scientists on thin ice -- The Deniers Part IV
The original denier: into the cold -- The Deniers Part V
The sun moves climate change -- The Deniers Part VI
Will the sun cool us? -- The Deniers Part VII
The limits of predictability -- The Deniers Part VIII
Look to Mars for the truth on global warming -- The Deniers Part IX
Limited role for C02 -- the Deniers Part X
End the chill -- The Deniers Part XI
Clouded research -- The Deniers Part XII
Allegre's second thoughts -- The Deniers XIII
The heat's in the sun -- The Deniers XIV
Unsettled Science -- The Deniers XV
Bitten by the IPCC -- The Deniers XVI
Little ice age is still within us -- The Deniers XVII
Fighting climate 'fluff' -- The Deniers XVIII

Science, not politics -- The Deniers XIX
Gore's guru disagreed -- The Deniers XX
The ice-core man -- The Deniers XXI
Some restraint in Rome -- The Deniers XXII
Discounting logic -- The Deniers XXIII
Dire forecasts aren't new -- The Deniers XXIV
They call this a consensus? - Part XXV
NASA chief Michael Griffin silenced - Part XXVI
Forget warming - beware the new ice age - Part XXVII

 
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=c6a32614-f906-4597-993d-f181196a6d71

1 posted on 03/26/2008 5:00:48 AM PDT by Delacon
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2 posted on 03/26/2008 5:01:19 AM PDT by Delacon (“The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H. L. Mencken)
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3 posted on 03/26/2008 5:15:01 AM PDT by xcamel (Forget the past and you're doomed to repeat it.)
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To Delacon and xcamel

Here is a great essay about the wonders of carbon and the Author has a blog, in which he debunks many of the Global Warming myths, especialy the non science, as well as other junk science.

Snip

In praise of Carbon

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
H. L. Mencken

Children are having nightmares about their carbon footprint. What a pretty pass modern man has brought himself to! Frightening children with scary stories about hell fire is the way our ancestors drilled society into conformity. It might have been hoped that the age of science would bring all that to an end, but now we have entered the post-scientific age, in which a new class of high priest returns to the traditional methods of enforcement. In order to establish the essential fear-provoking scenario they have nominated in the role of original sin one particular element, one atom out of the whole gamut. It is a choice that is bizarre to the rational mind, yet one that conforms to the long established principles of the founding of authoritative religions. Why is it bizarre? If you are of a mind to seek out magic and miracles look no further than the sixth member of the periodic table of elements.

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/Carbon.htm


4 posted on 03/26/2008 5:37:30 AM PDT by crazycat
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Thanks. I like the Mencken quote. Notice my tagline?


5 posted on 03/26/2008 5:51:23 AM PDT by Delacon (“The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H. L. Mencken)
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6 posted on 03/26/2008 5:59:56 AM PDT by upier ("Usted no es agradable en America" "Ahora deporte Illegals")
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To: Delacon

Pleasure....Now I see it Duh !

You’ll find other Mencken quotes on his site.


7 posted on 03/26/2008 6:10:55 AM PDT by crazycat
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Le Bump


8 posted on 03/26/2008 7:21:46 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Delacon
Wunsch felt he was swindled by the makers of "The Global Warming Swindle"

What we now have is an out-and-out propaganda piece, in which there is not even a gesture toward balance or explanation of why many of the extended inferences drawn in the film are not widely accepted by the scientific community. There are so many examples, it's hard to know where to begin, so I will cite only one: a speaker asserts, as is true, that carbon dioxide is only a small fraction of the atmospheric mass. The viewer is left to infer that means it couldn't really matter. But even a beginning meteorology student could tell you that the relative masses of gases are irrelevant to their effects on radiative balance. A director not intending to produce pure propaganda would have tried to eliminate that piece of disinformation.

An example where my own discussion was grossly distorted by context: I am shown explaining that a warming ocean could expel more carbon dioxide than it absorbs -- thus exacerbating the greenhouse gas buildup in the atmosphere and hence worrisome. It was used in the film, through its context, to imply that CO2 is all natural, coming from the ocean, and that therefore the human element is irrelevant. This use of my remarks, which are literally what I said, comes close to fraud.

http://ocean.mit.edu/~cwunsch/papersonline/channel4response

9 posted on 03/26/2008 5:35:08 PM PDT by secretagent
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If you had been following the series, you’d know that it said the same thing about “The Global Warming Swindle” . Like an “Inconvenient Truth”, it does nothing to forward reasoned and scientific discussion about climate change. But hey, where were you when Inconvenient Truth came out? Drinking the coolaid?


10 posted on 03/26/2008 5:47:11 PM PDT by Delacon (“The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H. L. Mencken)
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CARL WUNSCH: This is a long and interesting subject. We do know - and this is a legitimate point - that the earth has been warmer and colder in the past. This is what the geological record tells us, on timescales where people could not have had any influence on the system. As we look at what's going on today, there are people who claim to know that what we are seeing can't be due to human beings, because in the past, human beings could not have caused the change.

Well, that's a non-sequitur. The changes that we're seeing today are consistent with a great deal of what we know about the climate system, where there's very little argument about the effects. So, for example, adding carbon dioxide very rapidly that is over periods of decades, which nature doesn't do itself, we can calculate, these are calculations that go back almost 100 years, how much the earth should warm on average. We tend to see that the pattern of warming where more of it takes place at the poles are consistent with an anthropogenic input.

Is there is no proof? Well, there is no proof, but science is very rarely about proof, science is about plausibility. Most of the people who work in this subject without guaranteeing anything will say, “It seems very likely that we are seeing human induced warming because it is taking place on time scales that nature does not normally produce”. There is the argument in that film that it's all due to the sun. There is absolutely no evidence, apart from the distortions they made in the graphs in that film in the version that I saw, there's no absolutely no evidence that what we're seeing is due to solar forcing.

Will I guarantee what we're seeing is due to anthropogenic causes? No. Do I think it's very likely that it is due to anthropogenic causes, and we should react on that basis? Yes, I do, it's very worrying.

There are a number of elements to the system like that. There's very little in science that we can say, “This must absolutely be true”. There's a whole range of depths of scientific belief. I will tell you that the sun will rise tomorrow morning. I will tell you that quite definitely.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2007/s1977366.htm

11 posted on 03/26/2008 5:47:38 PM PDT by secretagent
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