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To: fire and forget
"what a brazen statement after the Wright flap"

The interview was from 2003, not from after the Wright brouhaha developed. Either way, it is extremely important for showing another top Obama advisor to have some very dubious baggage. There have been many indications that Obama is NOT HONEST when he pretends to be a staunch supporter of Israel for campaign purposes. There is the jihad activist who wrote about how Obama praised his work for pro-Palestinian causes and (this was in 2004 IIRC) how Obama was sorry he could not be more "up front" in the campaign in support of Palestinian issues but that it was a difficult campaign (his run for US Senate). I think that anyone who cares about Israel, not to mention fighting the rise of jihad terrorism around the world, would be crazy to think Obama will be a staunch opponent of the Pali-Nazis on anything. He will look for every way to coddle and surrender to the forces of terror, starting with his warmest greetings to Assad and Ahmawhackjob, followed by fraternal regards to Hamas and Hezbollah. To the extent that he subdues those impulses it will only because of concern it might do to his re-election prospects. He is not to be trusted on a wide range of security and foreign affairs issues, IMHO.
20 posted on 03/25/2008 9:54:35 PM PDT by Enchante (Careful, Obama - Hillary May Soon Need to Exercise the "Tonya Harding Option")
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To: Enchante

Thanks for that clarification. I’ll never understand why the leftists put forward two of their most over-the-top leftist people in a national campaign. Not the “Audacity of Hope,” the audacity of Hussein presuming he’s somehow qualified to lead this nation in ANY capacity. Has anyone with such naked political polarity and so threadbare a resume ever deigned to lead a major party’s ticket in this country? If European and third world politics didn’t have traditions of being as bad or worse, our nation would be the butt of jokes the world over. Alas for all humanity.

As much as we enjoy seeing the dems strangling themselves on their own petards, they’re merely a symptom of the mindlessness infecting America. I pray, but with diminishing hope, the disease can still be reversed.


28 posted on 03/25/2008 10:14:40 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: Enchante

Was Obama Ever a Muslim?

“I’ve always been a Christian,” said Obama, focusing on his own personal lack of practice of Islam as a child to deny any connection to Islam. But Muslims do not see practice as key. For them, that he was born to a line of Muslim males makes him born a Muslim. Further, all children born with an Arabic name based on the H-S-N trilateral root (Hussein, Hassan, and others) can be assumed to be Muslim, so they will understand Obama’s full name, Barack Hussein Obama, to proclaim him a born Muslim.

More: family and friends considered him as a child to be Muslim. In “Obama Debunks Claim About Islamic School,” Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press wrote on January 24, 2007, that

Obama’s mother, divorced from Obama’s father, married a man from Indonesia named Lolo Soetoro, and the family relocated to the country from 1967-71. At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather. The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering – Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant.

Asked about this, Obama communications director Robert Gibbs responded by indicating to Pickler that

he wasn’t sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim. “Senator Obama has never been a Muslim.”

Two months later, Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times (available online in a Baltimore Sun reprint) reported that the Obama campaign had retreated from that absolute statement and instead issued a more nuanced one: “Obama has never been a practicing Muslim.” The Times looked into the matter further and learned more about his Indonesian interlude:

His former Roman Catholic and Muslim teachers, along with two people who were identified by Obama’s grade-school teacher as childhood friends, say Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended. That registration meant that during the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class.

The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque. “We prayed but not really seriously, just following actions done by older people in the mosque. But as kids, we loved to meet our friends and went to the mosque together and played,” said Zulfin Adi. … Obama’s younger sister, Maya Soetoro, said in a statement released by the campaign that the family attended the mosque only “for big communal events,” not every Friday.

Recalling Obama’s time in Indonesia, the Times account contains quotes that Obama “went to the mosque,” and that he “was Muslim.”

Summarized, available evidence suggests Obama was born a Muslim to a non-practicing Muslim father and for some years had a reasonably Muslim upbringing under the auspices of his Indonesian step-father. At some point, he converted to Christianity. It appears false to state, as Obama does, “I’ve always been a Christian” and “I’ve never practiced Islam.” The campaign appears to be either ignorant or fabricating when it states that “Obama never prayed in a mosque.”-Daniel PIpes


34 posted on 03/25/2008 10:28:28 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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