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Symantec, Windows users beset by Vista SP1 flaws
ZDNet ^ | 03/24/08 | Tom Espiner

Posted on 03/25/2008 8:43:40 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Symantec, Windows users beset by Vista SP1 flaws

By Tom Espiner, ZDNet UK

Monday, March 24, 2008 10:56 AM

Security vendor Symantec has said that updated drivers to replace those adversely affected by Windows Vista Service Pack 1 are not yet available.

The company said users will have to wait for the updated drivers, which will be available "in the coming weeks". The drivers in question are for Endpoint Protection and Network Access Control, two of Symantec's flagship enterprise security products.

Microsoft released Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) to Windows Update on Tuesday. However, in the Vista team blog, Vista product manager Nick White wrote that some vendors' drivers "may be problematic after an update from Windows Vista to Windows Vista SP1". Symantec Endpoint Protection and Network Access Control clients were among the list of drivers affected by SP1.

On Thursday, Symantec said that, while it was aware of the problems SP1 had caused for its drivers and customers, updated drivers for Endpoint Protection were not yet available. Symantec made no explicit mention of Network Access Control drivers in an e-mail response to ZDNet Asia's sister site ZDNet UK.

"Symantec [is] aware of this issue and has updated the affected driver to resolve the issue," Symantec said in its e-mail statement. "The currently available version of Symantec Endpoint Protection (Maintenance Release 1) is not certified for use with Vista SP1 and could potentially be impacted by this issue. The next upcoming maintenance release of Symantec Endpoint Protection, which is currently with beta customers and due to be available for general release in the coming weeks, will be fully certified for Vista SP1 and will include an updated driver which is not impacted by this issue."

As well as vendors, some Microsoft customers were also affected by downloading SP1. In comments on Nick White's blog post, a user called "iggy23" said downloading Vista SP1 had caused a "blue screen", which can be displayed by Windows in the event of a critical system error.

"I downloaded [SP1] via Windows Update and got a blue screen on the third part of the update," wrote iggy23. "[It] took five hours to 'revert to previous'. So I downloaded the package version and tried that. Same blue screen. Same hours."

Another user experienced problems with their graphics drivers after downloading Vista SP1.

"Well, I installed Vista SP1 after seeing it on Windows Update last night," wrote the user. "In retrospect, not my finest decision. What a disaster! It exiled all of my Nvidia drivers to the Bermuda Triangle... they're simply all gone. Okay, no big deal, go to the Nvidia site, download the latest drivers, install and nada. Zip, zilch, nothing changes. The install fails... every time, without fail."

One irate Windows user claiming to be Howard Terry, a researcher at Berkeley and Stanford universities, said that university professors and students were considering a class action lawsuit if Microsoft did not resolve this problem.

"This is a very serious matter--tell someone in charge that Stanford and... Berkeley professors and students will begin a class action lawsuit very soon if this SP1 update problem is not fixed for Vista [business] users asap," wrote "drqc terry". "What have you people done to this new OS...?"

The majority of comments responding to White's blog post were positive, however.

Microsoft had not explained why it had released SP1 in the knowledge that it could break third-party drivers at the time of writing. However, a spokesperson for the company said that Microsoft would ultimately automatically push out updated drivers ahead of SP1 downloads.

"We've spent the last couple of months or so investigating the driver issues we shared back in February," said Microsoft in an e-mail. "Since then, we [have] identified a small set of device drivers that, if installed on a Windows Vista PC that is subsequently updated to SP1, may be problematic. We were pleased to find that many of the reports that caused our original concern were on pre-release builds of the service pack and were addressed by improvements made between the release candidate and final builds. Although many driver issues were addressed, there are a small number of issues around specific device drivers remaining."

"We want our customers to have the best possible experience with Windows Vista SP1, so we have configured Windows Update to initially delay offering the service pack to PCs with these identified drivers until the issues are resolved," said Microsoft.

"In order to deliver SP1 to these PCs, we worked with our partners to produce driver updates for the drivers that were reported to be problematic when updating to SP1. Updated drivers for the many of the issues found are available on Windows Update as 'optional' updates today. Ultimately, we will be using Windows Update to automatically deliver these updated drivers to PCs in advance of offering them SP1," added the software giant.

"We continue to work with partners to produce resolutions for several other issues," Microsoft said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: computersecurity; gladivegotxp; komando; lowqualitycrap; microsoft; operatingsystems; sp1; vista; windows; xp
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1 posted on 03/25/2008 8:43:41 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: neverdem

Ping!


2 posted on 03/25/2008 8:44:00 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Worked fine for me, done in an hour and twenty minutes.


3 posted on 03/25/2008 8:47:29 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Vista continues to prove that crap designed by committee and coded by the lowest bidder is still crap


4 posted on 03/25/2008 8:47:30 PM PDT by bigbob (2)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Event Type: Failure Audit
Event Source: Security
Event Category: Account Logon
Event ID: 675
Date: 3/25/2008
Time: 10:38:58 PM
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: < Server >
Description:
Pre-authentication failed:
User Name:
User ID: Domain\PCNAME$
Service Name: krbtgt/Domain.COM
Pre-Authentication Type: 0x0
Failure Code: 0x19
Client Address: 192.168.1.5

This is from a Win2K security log showing a constant '675 error' caused by the only Vista SP1 machine on my net. Good luck trying to get an answer from Microsoft or anyone else as to the cause.

5 posted on 03/25/2008 8:50:08 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Microsoft deserves the fate of Bear Sterns.


6 posted on 03/25/2008 8:50:16 PM PDT by devere (http://www.usmm.net/p2/thiswar.jpg)
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To: bigbob

Symantec is the worst! I highly recommend that anyone using Symantec find another product. ASAP


7 posted on 03/25/2008 8:51:36 PM PDT by DenverCossack
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Works fine here.


8 posted on 03/25/2008 8:51:47 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: devere
You mean, originally taken over with $2 per share, and later revised to $10 per share?
9 posted on 03/25/2008 8:52:51 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
".."This is a very serious matter--tell someone in charge that Stanford and... Berkeley professors and students will begin a class action lawsuit very soon if this SP1 update problem is not fixed for Vista [business] users asap," wrote "drqc terry". "What have you people done to this new OS...?".."

MS screwed the pooch bad with Vista.

10 posted on 03/25/2008 8:54:10 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Our company is getting off the M$ bandwagon and moving to Linux. Vista brings no ROI (Return on Investment) to the table.


11 posted on 03/25/2008 8:54:18 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: DenverCossack

I constantly must turn off Symantec Crap on our manufacturing machings. We are better off with the firewall only. It hoses most processes.


12 posted on 03/25/2008 8:54:24 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: bigbob
Vista continues to prove that crap designed by committee and coded by the lowest bidder is still crap

Please....calling Vista crap by defending Symantec products is pretty weak.

13 posted on 03/25/2008 8:54:35 PM PDT by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: DenverCossack

Yeah. Try removing it from your PC. Not fun.


14 posted on 03/25/2008 8:56:40 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

I can do it in 90 minutes. Loads of fun.


15 posted on 03/25/2008 8:57:48 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress
They really need to find a lite version for PCs that are used in an environment like yours.

We have the same issues, too.

16 posted on 03/25/2008 8:59:44 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

I’m trying to get my IT guys to make a push to just go with whatever Komando says. We have the Corporate version everywhere and damn near everytime the PC locks up on the floor, it is Symantec. Pisses me off because i’m in charge of those PC’s.


17 posted on 03/25/2008 9:04:31 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress
Yup. What the heck is it doing?

Heard that it embeds itself in the OS and you never completely uninstall it.

18 posted on 03/25/2008 9:05:04 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345; eyedigress
How to completely remove Norton products from your PC.
19 posted on 03/25/2008 9:05:48 PM PDT by jdm
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To: dhs12345

I remove it line by line from the registry. It (Symantec) kills Dcom, PCI Bus priority, heck even the screensaver can screw it up.
I kill CCapp and everything is hunky-dory.


20 posted on 03/25/2008 9:09:46 PM PDT by eyedigress
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