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To: indcons; PugetSoundSoldier; hedgetrimmer
This thread hasn’t been infected by the ChiCom trolls (as yet) but I’m sure one of the numerous trolls here will “educate” us that the dead here are PLAN soldiers after all /sarc

Such as puget sound soldier?

Wal-Mart's Marriage to China as Strong as Ever Posted by PugetSoundSoldier to steve86 On News/Activism 02/25/2008 12:58:47 PM PST · 31 of 77

So as long as you label the transactions "capitalist", any kind of trade activity that benefits a Communist enemy is A-OK? Been to China recently? Because it's about as communist as Germany, Italy, or the UK. The "Chicoms" lost - they've seen the results of communism (USSR), and are running full-speed AWAY from that. Rather than just declare "we're done now!" like Russia, and experience the massive failures that happened because of that, they're managing the transition.

China is a LOT more economically open than the US. It's 10X easier to do business there. You get ahead by working for it, and it's pretty simple to keep what you make. Don't want to work? Well, those that DO work don't have to support you - social net is tiny. Taxation is simple, direct, and rare; for example, property is taxed once, at sale. You don't have an annual property tax.

Speech? Free and open; you'll read opinion columns and letters criticizing the government. In fact, many of those same columns are posted here on FR! Being critical of the government does not gain you a bullet in the head - China's opening up.

Religion? I'm a regular attender of the Hengshan Community Church in Shanghai, when I'm in China. Openly evangelical, Biblically sound (I'm a Free Methodist here in the US - a very conservative branch of Methodism), and unflinchingly honest about God, man, and society. And considering the number of open and active Buddhist temples (and mosques, and other churches), religion has a STRONG position inside China.

Politics? The CCP is still the 800 pound gorilla, but other parties exist and are slowly gaining more and more seats and power. Including the Jiu San Party whose main plank is independence for Taiwan!

China's not the communist country you think it is; I see it much more along the lines of Poland, Chech Republic, and other emerging Western states. China's going about their change at a deliberate pace in what they believe is best for China. They know that communism will fail, and that capitalism and democracy are the only solutions. But they'll take their carefully picked path to get there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies

11 posted on 03/25/2008 7:04:37 AM PDT by am452 (In order to ensure the quality of your patriotism, your conversation may be monitored.)
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To: am452
Goodness....they keep appearing like cockroaches. We have identified many new ChiCom trolls on FR. Looks like pganini’s banning led the PLAN to send its “best and brightest” (that's a joke) to infect this forum.
12 posted on 03/25/2008 7:09:37 AM PDT by indcons
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To: am452

I remember that comment to me. In fact, I was really pizzed off and probably said something that got me suspended for a couple hours.


17 posted on 03/25/2008 7:45:52 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureā„¢)
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To: am452
I guess if you consider burning 10 women to death not to mention destroying hundreds of businesses a peaceful protest, then your points are well made.

Now, the demonstration I saw today down on Nanjing East Road in Shanghai, with banners and chants decrying the violence in Tibet and calling for a free Tibet didn't garner much in the way of bullets.

I guess there needs to be smoldering corpses and destroyed lives before protests rise to the level of "justified"?

23 posted on 03/28/2008 3:11:00 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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