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military-style weaponry that can match criminals' and even penetrate body armor.

B.F.D. What class of body armor?

Ballistic Resistance of Personal Body Armor NIJ-Standard 0101.04 (PDF)

Body Armor Performance standards
(Wikipedia; data from Underwriters Laboratories [UL Standard 752] and the United States National Institute of Justice [NIJ Standard 0101.04])

1 posted on 03/24/2008 7:31:14 AM PDT by holymoly
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Militarized “law enforcement” agencies are the standing army our Founders feared.


38 posted on 03/24/2008 8:32:43 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don’t kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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"By what right does Congress and the President of the United States put at risk the lives of the young men and women who put on those uniforms and those badges?"

By what right does the chief elevate the rights of the public SERVANTS above the public they claim to serve????? Our rights are SUPPOSED to be superior to those we employ.

46 posted on 03/24/2008 9:12:14 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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Los Angeles police learned the danger of being outgunned by criminals wearing body armor in 1997, when 11 officers were injured, plus two civilians, in a gun battle with two bank robbers.

Ah, wasn't that before the AWB expired? These police state generals will never be satisfied until the entire population of subjects is neutered and the enforcers are armed with state of the art weaponry and gear. Their one track mindset can't comprehend concepts such as they work for us, we have a constitution, etc. When will we start firing dangerous people like this?

49 posted on 03/24/2008 9:44:31 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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Miami Police Chief John Timoney calls the new arms race with criminals ''a national problem.'' He has armed his officers with AR-15 assault rifles in response.

This Bozo is facing corruption charges for the use of a Lexus "donated" by a local dealership for the chief's fine work in the "community." He also just got a vote of "no confidence" from the rank and file. He came (IIRC) from Boston and fit right in with the liberal gun ban crowd in South Florida. With any sort of luck he'll go the same way his fellow gun banner from Broward, Ken Jenne, went (handcuffed) and in a shorter period of time.

Funny how all the folks who want to ban our guns all have these really ugly skeletons hidden deep in their closets. Teddy Kennedy had Chappaquidick, Clinton had monica and filegate and white water and .....so on etc. I'll bet chuckie schumer has something rattling around he'd like kept secret.

50 posted on 03/24/2008 9:44:40 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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Last year saw the largest number of police officers killed on duty in five years, with 69 shot to death.

And how many were killed with "assault weapons"?

52 posted on 03/24/2008 10:51:37 AM PDT by Redcloak (Yeah... Sure... McCain. Why not.)
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''Weapons of this nature serve no legitimate sporting or hunting purposes and have no place in our community. Unless Congress acts, the firearms of choice for terrorists, drug dealers, gang members and thugs will be back on our streets where once again our officers will be outgunned by criminals.''

Terrorists, drug dealers, gang members and thugs all prefer semiautomatic weapons that *look like" full auto weapons? I know they aren't the brightest bulbs in the string, for the most part, but they aren't that stupid. And neither are we.

54 posted on 03/24/2008 12:36:10 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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''By what right does Congress and the President of the United States put at risk the lives of the young men and women who put on those uniforms and those badges?''

Stupid strawman. It's called the Constitution you assclown.

58 posted on 03/24/2008 4:28:37 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (You've heard of the War on Some Drugs? Now it's the War on Some Terror)
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Here's a great idea! Put some of those liberal judges in jail until they start enforcing the laws on the books and get tough with criminals. You can arm cops with the biggest fire power available but until those judges get tough on criminals, it's NEVER going to change.

IMO, more cops were killed this past year because there are so many illegals from gangs like the MS-13 who have NO respect for our laws and will kill cops in a heartbeat.

59 posted on 03/24/2008 10:28:41 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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