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Pilot's gun discharges on US Airways flight
wcnc via Drudge Report ^ | March 23, 2008 | DIANA RUGG

Posted on 03/23/2008 6:14:42 PM PDT by RDTF

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To: Eaker

“So you would never own a revolver either?”

I have one, so I guess that answers the question.


81 posted on 03/23/2008 6:59:50 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: MHGinTN

They do? I own one, and it’s never gone off when someone wasn’t pulling the trigger.


82 posted on 03/23/2008 7:01:21 PM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Kirkwood

Been doing it for 15 years.

Luck ain’t a part of it.

Intelligence and training certainly are though.


83 posted on 03/23/2008 7:01:29 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 “... He that will not work, neither should he eat.”)
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To: StopGlobalWhining

My sentiments exactly
I imagine the airlines would like to fill those seats with paying passengers instead of gun toting security.


84 posted on 03/23/2008 7:02:06 PM PDT by Selmore (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: bobby.223; Lancey Howard

He’s wearing an ATF hat...

Did you see this little tidbit I found the other day?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1989826/posts


85 posted on 03/23/2008 7:02:14 PM PDT by Content Provider
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To: infantrywhooah
Maybe it was uncomfortable and he was moving it and reholstering it.
86 posted on 03/23/2008 7:03:13 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Eaker

“That is the question that Glock haters avoid like the plague.”

I never said I hated them, I just think it has a very poorly designed safety that was put onto it for PC reasons. I’m not the only person who thinks that. A lot of shooters feel the same way. The gun itself is fine provided the operator knows the limitations of it.


87 posted on 03/23/2008 7:04:37 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: Eaker

My .45 Auto is a Ruger, but I still have a Dan Wesson .357, and it will shoot any time someone pulls the trigger. Shoots quite well, out of either barrel length...but if you jam it loaded into a bag, it can ‘accidentally discharge’ as well.

I agree with the US Army. There are no accidental discharges, only negligent ones!


88 posted on 03/23/2008 7:04:56 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Let's win Congress - the Presidency is lost!)
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To: Kirkwood

So you do understand that if you pull the trigger it will make a bang-like noise just like a Glock?

You have yet to detail a real difference.


89 posted on 03/23/2008 7:05:02 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 “... He that will not work, neither should he eat.”)
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To: coloradan

See #63 ... Eaker is playing gun god tonight, full of piss and vinegar. My son, with a class three license, swears by his Glocks, even bought his Mother one! I wouldn’t have one. My weapon is a 1911A with eight round mags. Keep handy a mag of Hydra Shoks and a mag of ball ammo.


90 posted on 03/23/2008 7:05:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Kirkwood; Eaker
99% of revolvers don’t have safeties, because they are really not needed

All modern revolvers have a trigger safety.

It is called a transfer bar.


91 posted on 03/23/2008 7:05:35 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Mr Rogers
I agree with the US Army. There are no accidental discharges, only negligent ones!

Yep!

92 posted on 03/23/2008 7:07:57 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 “... He that will not work, neither should he eat.”)
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To: Content Provider

no glasses. that was a hell of a tidbit. holy sh&t.


93 posted on 03/23/2008 7:08:05 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: donmeaker

I don’t know what make & model pistol was involved here, but odds are the gun was being played with, and the trigger got pulled.

As far as action designs, IMHO they should be using DA/SA autos equipped with hammer block safetys. These can be carried loaded with one in the chamber and the hammer down, safety on. In this condition, even pulling the trigger and dropping the hammer wil not fire the gun.

When needed, just push the safety off, and pull the trigger.


94 posted on 03/23/2008 7:09:15 PM PDT by wrench
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To: Kirkwood
After many years the world has come full circle for me. I'm a big fan of the revolver today.

Simply put: easier to clean, holds up better under extreme cold, generally more accurate, more suited in larger calibers that might be necessary (Bear/Moose), the revolver for both self-defense and survival reasons is most often the better choice than the newer semi's. The much more mechanically complicated Glock, Beretta, Springfield, Sig etc., are also often more complicated to operate usually with many people having a hard time with the slide release etc. A stainless S&W with rubber grips for survival, or a hammerless compact lightweight 38 revolver for self defense is hard to beat. -IMHO

95 posted on 03/23/2008 7:09:17 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: donmeaker

The Para LDA has a triple safety. The hand grip must be depressed to pull the trigger. The slide safety has to be manually switched to pull the trigger. And finally the internal safety disconnects the firing pin (unless the trigger is pulled) and this prevents a discharge if the weapon is dropped. Also the LDA has a true DA trigger with a very long pull like a revolver. It is unlike the DA on other semiautos.


96 posted on 03/23/2008 7:09:52 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: AFreeBird
And yea, I agree with you, I don't like Glocks at all.

Agreed. Sig Sauer for me.

97 posted on 03/23/2008 7:11:03 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: MHGinTN
Eaker is playing gun god tonight, full of piss and vinegar.

Not at all. I am just tired of people with no practical experience parroting BS about a great gun design.

Normally one pings someone if they are going to bad mouth them.

98 posted on 03/23/2008 7:12:40 PM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 “... He that will not work, neither should he eat.”)
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To: StopGlobalWhining

I was never to enthusiastic about the program either.


99 posted on 03/23/2008 7:12:51 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: AFreeBird
And sitting behind a locked, reinforced door, means he should not have it in Condition One. No reason for a round to be chambered.

All LEOs on duty have "a round chambered." A pilot wearing a weapon is on duty.

No idea what happened on the AD, but your comment is wrong.
100 posted on 03/23/2008 7:13:23 PM PDT by safisoft
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