It seems that high schools, colleges and universities used to exist to educate, now they are vocational training schools. Those who denigrate liberal arts fail to understand the difference between education and training. The founding fathers were educated men, computer science graduates are trained men. When there are no more truly educated men we will understand the real meaning of Hell on Earth.
Why would you say that computer science men are “trained” men?
For one thing, most of our friends with engineers tend to be the type that educate ourselves. We actually read lots of books, and typically are fairly knowledgeable about politics and other subjects.
Just look at the fact, that I am posting on Free Republic. My old college classmates with liberal arts degrees tend to be teachers in elementary schools, and they don’t know as much about politics as I do.
My very gifted 13 year old son is interested in going into engineering. With math, science, and technical subjects you really need to have practice and someone to look at your work to make sure you are doing it correctly.
My also likes history. He reads the history books, and he comprehends them easily. He doesn’t really need anyone to teach him the things that he reads in those books because he gets it.
This statement really made me mad.
I think H*** on Earth is when there are no more engineers to build the things that everyone likes.
You need engineers to design houses, buildings, roads, bridges, computers, cars, electrical systems, etc.
You need scientists to find cures to diseases, find sources of fuel, etc.
Who do you think designed the Pyramids???? It wasn’t a history scholar.
It’s also a little more complicated than training. Engineers and scientist have to think and design and figure out problems. College gives opportunities for engineers and scienetist to think and design in a safe environment. You wouldn’t want a high school computer hacker to work on a missle defense system because they haven’t been taught the different elements of safe design, and most of us engineers make mistakes with our early systems.
Those of use who denigrate liberal arts have seen tons of liberal arts majors who know less coming out of a liberal arts program than they did going in.
Too many liberal arts programs are now simply indoctrination camps and have nothing in common with a classical liberal arts education.
Let’s put it this way: you want to see an ugly sight? Put me, a retired engineer/farmer up against any (and I do many any) current liberal arts graduate of any Ivy-league university on the background, foundations and events of our Founding Fathers. These kids know nothing about Mill, Locke, Fletcher, the Scottish Enlightenment, etc.
Nothing that is, that isn’t spouted through a post-modernist deconstruction of grievance politics of women, minorities and marxists.
Debating these kids today on subjects such as these is like shooting fish in a five gallon bucket.
Twice.
With a 12 gauge.
Utterly pathetic. These kids should at lease sue their school administrations for simple fraud, because they’re not getting the education for which they’ve paid most handsomely.