[gondramB]

>Just trying to shown the long term trend since you ‘Global Warning’ whinnies think ANY short term period proves your (Al gore) points.<<

My point was that there is a 100 year warming trend with a flat spot between 1945 and 1976. I doubt Al would it that way because the flat spot proves something other than CO2 is a major influence.

>>Take it as another indicator that warm & cool periods in history are MOST likely cause by the SUN.......<<

That’s problematic because the sun (and the measure you want is probably total solar irradiance -tsi) has been in a period of decline and does not correlate well with recent warming.

[Minn]

the sun (and the measure you want is probably total solar irradiance -tsi) has been in a period of decline and does not correlate well with recent warming

So maybe your assertion that the effects of purported AWG are universally bad is questionable. If the sun's in decline for the long haul, maybe A little thicker CO2 blanket isn't a bad thing going forward. Disclaimer: I'm not asserting AWG is real (it almost certainly isn't), but just making a rhetorical point.

[Old Professer]

When I want to heat the cold laundry warm I fill the washer with hot water; it will take the chill off for hours.

The oceans are now demonstrably cooling and that’s an inconvenient fact.

[skeptoid]

That’s problematic because the sun (and the measure you want is probably total solar irradiance -tsi) has been in a period of decline and does not correlate well with recent warming.relevant measure being observed is sunspot activity and its resultant radiation . There has been virtually NONE for some time, but on January 4 the first sunspot of the new Solar Cycle 24 was announced by NASA.

Then there is the effect of the sun's magnetic field on the amount of cosmic radiation that reaches us. It is very likely that cloud formation is greatly stumulated by those rays. Current research indicates that it easily accounts for the last 100 years of measured warming through regulation of beneficial greenhouse gas (low cloud) formation.

Total solar irradiance has been going down

It's the relatively small fraction of x and g band radiation that influences cloud formation, apparently. I'm also very curious if you have heard that Antartic ice cores show CO2 level follow historical increases in temperature.

And finally, were you actually dry behind the ears 35 years ago when scientific consensus gravely warned we were going to freeze, starve and be glaciated unless we took immediate and drastic action to stop GLOBAL COOLING?