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To: 3niner

>>You should probably try to understand something about the subject, before you try to argue about it. Here is a good, lay summary, of what is known about Global Warming. It is greatly simplified, but the people who put this together are not liars, like the ones trying to panic humanity into appointing a select few to be our lords and masters forever.<<

Yeah I probably should have paid more attention to that global warming conference week before last at MIT...

Seriously, if you disagree, you can do it better without personal attacks.

We’ve got people that want to use global warming to end the American way of life. That can’t be permitted.

But to protect our country we need to deal with reality.

And the truth is that the surface temperature of the earth is rising and that historically this has been associated with rising CO2. the order that happened in is variable and within the error bars.

Its also true that making fun of me doesn’t change anything.


37 posted on 03/23/2008 2:30:23 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: gondramB
Yeah I probably should have paid more attention to that global warming conference week before last at MIT...

No, you should have visited, and tried to understand the content, at the link I provided for you.

But to protect our country we need to deal with reality.

To have a meaningful discussion about "reality", you need to first have to have some sort of a clue as to what constitutes reality.

41 posted on 03/23/2008 2:35:58 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: gondramB

You don’t deserve victim status - you haven’t earned it.

You said the Australian was not a good source, why?


70 posted on 03/23/2008 3:50:27 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: gondramB
"historically" only refers to WRITTEN RECORDS. Temperatures have been measured for barely more than a century.

At the same time we infer temperatures from periods before measurement was possible from other sources ~ e.g. diatom deposits, ice cores, pollen layers in shallow lakes, etc.

Recently folks have been reporting that we know the mean global temperature. Turned out most of the devices used to do the measuring were not up to the task, and those that were had been improperly managed.

I'd suggest we don't know if it's getting warmer or cooler.

87 posted on 03/23/2008 4:49:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: gondramB
All of the periods of study mentioned are too short to come to any conclusion regarding global climate changes.

That being said, if there was any meaningful data that the climate was warming or cooling, the first place I would look would be THE GIANT STAR AT THE CENTER OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM.

104 posted on 04/03/2008 8:35:04 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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