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To: robertpaulsen
robertpaulsen said: "Using the old Miller rule would have stopped them, but we threw that out to get handguns approved, remember?"

Who are you and what have you done with the real robertpaulsen?

If the Miller decision did not protect the individual right to keep and bear at least some arms, then there will be absolutely nothing lost, no matter what the Supreme Court decides in Heller. As of today, the Congress of the United States has already infringed the right of the people to keep and bear machine guns, short-barreled shotguns and rifles, silencers, grenade launchers, and, until 2004, semi-automatic rifles with such lethal features as bayonet lugs.

People like you, who have supported the anti-gunners in their unConstitutional demonizing of any and all weapons and in reducing the Second Amendment to meaninglessness, are solely responsible for the need to bring Heller to the Supreme Court. Any downside to their decision is on your head.

69 posted on 03/24/2008 6:43:01 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: William Tell
"As of today, the Congress of the United States has already infringed the right of the people to keep and bear machine guns, short-barreled shotguns and rifles, silencers, grenade launchers, and, until 2004, semi-automatic rifles with such lethal features as bayonet lugs."

As of today, those arms are regulated, not banned. Second, they're only regulated for civilians with no connection to a Militia. Third, today, the second amendment protects those arms from ANY infringement by the federal government for Militia members.

Under Heller, they may be banned (Gura's words) completely, for everyone, since they have no second amendment protection.

You call that "nothing lost"? Tell me. What would constitutionally prevent the federal government, under Heller, from calling for all privately owned machine guns to be sent to the federal government to be melted down? Compensation will be provided at 2X current market value. Failure to comply is a mandatory 10 year prison sentence (if caught).

77 posted on 03/25/2008 7:52:02 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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