Posted on 03/21/2008 11:27:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
I am a CONSERVATIVE in the tradition of William Buckley. If conservatives call each another ‘liberals’ in lieu of actual debate, it is sad.
LLS
Hell no! We need to keep an eye on them. Move the UN to Montana.
LLS,
That kind of thinking gives consevatism a very bad name. FDR was a man who led America during the greatest war in history and planned for the peace following war. He might have been naive about the Soviet Union but to suggest that he was in the same league as Marx and Engels is patently false.
When FDR became president, Milton Friedman was still in school and the most prominent economist was Keynes. No prominent Western government (Britain or France) dealt with the great depression using conservative economics, because the theoretical principles of conservative supply-side economics had not yet been fully developed. (Von Hayek wrote ‘the road to serfdom’ between 1940 - 43).
In fact, the modern Conservative movement did not gather steam until the 1950’s (led by William Buckley).
You cannot prove (from the Bible) that the UN has direct links to satan the same way you cannot prove whether the Fed has direct links to satan. However, you need to deal with both the Fed and the UN.
I am all for a conservatism based on logic and commonsense, not one based on gut feelings, fear and superstition.
Then to Hell with Delhi, Botswana, Pretoria, Morocco and Brasilia. Feel free to join them on their trip.
Sorry King, I’m in the FLUSH the UN camp, it is unredeemable...FDR’s (rip) ideal was poisoned from the beginning. All that it would take to destroy the UN is total de-funding from the US...no other UN member country gives a crap about anything except their skim.
The UN is NEST of Hate America and enabling our enemies.
Almost all Wars or Programs the UN is heavily involved in results in abject failure or worse. Can you name any UN sucesses?
LLS
I’d prefer us to get out to as to end any globalization hopes a future President might have. America is a sovereign nation, and very, very many of her sons and daughters will die before they let her fall.
And I’m not talking about the military.
I know globalism and expansion of elitist institutions will continue to dominate and ultimately crush our nation. Most of it was driven from the US.
We can’t eat our cake and have it. We set this ball rolling. Coke and Pepsi are sold in every nation on earth. Microsoft Windows is the defacto world standard. Reagan preached free trade.
Agreed, government should ensure that international trade agreements are just. We love to bash China, but the truth is that if the Chinese revalue their currency we will be in big trouble. It is not the fault of China that we have an almost zero savings rate.
It is not China’s fault that Germany (with a third of our population and higher labor costs) is the World’s largest exporter. If Chinese imports did not destroy German manufacturing, then why did they destroy ours?
Are we still competitive? We need to ask ourselves that question.
No serious Republican/Conservative politician will take the US out of the UN and I hope you understand why. Even if Michael Savage were to be elected President, he wouldn't take the US out of the UN.
You haven't thought deeply about the consequences of America abandoning the international system. Conservatism should be driven by logic not emotion. Sure, it feels good to abandon the UN, but it is not practicable.
If we are out of the UN, with what legitimacy would we deal with China, India or any other nation for that matter. We needed a UN resolution to invade Iraq because we wanted to establish a precedent. If China goes on a rampage tomorrow, we have legal grounds to oppose them.
The strength of America is its moral right. There was a time when America could afford to ignore the World. We ignored the rest of the World at our own peril (WWI and WWII).
How do you define conservatism? Who are your conservative heroes? Reagan? Burke? Friedman? von Hayek? Thatcher?
Please tell me how their views differ from mine?
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