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Vaccine Failure Means Setback in AIDS Fight
FOXNews.com ^
| Friday, March 21, 2008
| FOXNews.com
Posted on 03/21/2008 5:39:05 AM PDT by metmom
The two-decade search for an AIDS vaccine is in crisis after two field tests of the most promising contender not only did not protect people from the virus but may actually have put them at increased risk of becoming infected, The Washington Post reported.
Experts are questioning the overall strategy and scientific premises of the nearly $500 million in AIDS vaccine research funded annually by the government after the two field tests were halted last September and seven other trials of AIDS vaccines have either been stopped or put off indefinitely.
The recently closed studies, STEP and Phambili, were halted when it became clear the STEP study was futile and possibly harmful.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aids; hiv; homosexualagenda; vaccine
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To: Alter Kaker
Because it is false. That’s why!
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posted on
03/21/2008 8:12:26 AM PDT
by
gidget7
(Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
To: Dianna; All
If smokers and the families of smokers were on tv demanding a cure, and trying to make you feel like a vicious, unfeeling bigot for not donating enough, not caring enough, don't tell me you wouldn't suggest that people stop smoking.
Actually many of them were on TV not that many years ago....demanding that the Clinton Justice Dept. sue the pants off the tobacco companies, to punish them for their own irresponsible choices that they had made for years.
Once the fleecing started, it paved the way for individual lawsuits by smokers against big tobacco, and they now had a case too thanks to the feds. Trial lawyers had a field day with all that (and still are).
I'll withhold my moral judgement on AIDS sufferers, but the crux of this arguement isn't all that different.
142
posted on
03/21/2008 8:13:26 AM PDT
by
bamahead
(Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
To: Judith Anne
With another man, or men1. I don't think that's true -- unless some ridiculous percentage of the population of Southern Africa is bisexual.
2. Even if it were true, so what? Do women control who their husbands cheat on them with? Regardless of whether their husbands get HIV from prostitutes, from local floozies or from other men, they still get the disease. In the long run -- at least from the woman's perspective -- it really doesn't matter.
143
posted on
03/21/2008 8:13:37 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: gidget7
Because it is false. Thats why!90% of lung cancer cases are not caused by smoking? Really?
Uh... you're going to need a little more than a snappy one liner if you're hoping to overturn the consensus of the American Cancer Society, the American Lung Association, the Merck Manual, the American Medical Association and every other medical group under the sun...
144
posted on
03/21/2008 8:15:19 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: Judith Anne
AK, you keep talking about Africa. Where do you live? Africa?I'm talking about Africa because that's where the vast majority of people with HIV/AIDS live. If we were talking about SARS, I'd be talking about China. If we were talking about BDS, I'd be talking about California.
145
posted on
03/21/2008 8:16:44 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: metmom
The elimination of Smallpox is not just the killing of the virus (by preconditioning the immune system to recognize the virus and kill it inside the body) but complete GENOCIDE by eliminating the entire lineage of the virus.
Viruscide? Genocide? Extinction?
Either way the virus was killed dead until there is none left (in the ‘wild’) to kill.
146
posted on
03/21/2008 8:17:13 AM PDT
by
allmendream
("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
To: Alter Kaker
I’m just guessing here, but I’d be willing to bet you don’t know the transmission rate of HIV from female to male, vs male to female or male to male.
In fact, I doubt you have a clue. For someone who doesn’t know the amount of money spent on HIV research vs the other MAJOR killers, doesn’t know why universal precautions are mandatory now when they weren’t 30 years ago, and who doesn’t know HIV transmission rates in varying demographics, you have a remarkably one-sided viewpoint.
147
posted on
03/21/2008 8:17:38 AM PDT
by
Judith Anne
(I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
To: Alter Kaker
Any idea how many in the US, where all the fuss is, are living with HIV?
148
posted on
03/21/2008 8:19:06 AM PDT
by
Judith Anne
(I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
To: bamahead
Actually many of them were on TV not that many years ago....demanding that the Clinton Justice Dept. sue the pants off the tobacco companies, to punish them for their own irresponsible choices that they had made for years. It wasn't conservatives cheering them on. At least they limited themselves to the companies involved and didn't try to shame John Q Public.
149
posted on
03/21/2008 8:23:12 AM PDT
by
Dianna
To: Alter Kaker; All
And by the way, I asked for an apology from you for your rude remark to me in your post 93.
You didn’t give me one.
I have posted civilly to you, and you have refused to return the favor.
The next time I see you elsewhere on the forum, I will remember your behavior here today, and your behavior here will definitely color my assessment of your veracity.
150
posted on
03/21/2008 8:24:53 AM PDT
by
Judith Anne
(I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
To: Judith Anne
Any idea how many in the US, where all the fuss is, are living with HIV?Where all the fuss is? What are you talking about? AIDS is a relatively minor public health problem in the US. Relatively small numbers have it, and those who do benefit from anti-retroviral drug cocktails that can often drive the virus into remission.
Contrast that to Botswana, were upwards 40% of the adult population are HIV+. That's what I'm talking about, that's what I'm concerned about. There are entire nations that are being depopulated. And not because of gays in the United States.
151
posted on
03/21/2008 8:25:26 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: metmom
152
posted on
03/21/2008 8:26:24 AM PDT
by
Guenevere
(If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
To: metmom
Vaccine Failure Means Setback in AIDS Fight
I guess that means going back to fighting AIDS the old fashion way (also the ONLY way that works)---Keep de peepee out 'o de poopoo.
153
posted on
03/21/2008 8:27:02 AM PDT
by
rottndog
(Government is a necessary evil, but as with all evils, the less of it the better.)
To: Judith Anne
Im just guessing here, but Id be willing to bet you dont know the transmission rate of HIV from female to male, vs male to female or male to male.The transmission rate depends on what kind of sex you're talking about. The transmission rate for anal sex is identical, regardless of whether it involves a woman or a man. Some sexual practices popular in southern Africa apparently also increase the rate of HIV transmission. But the abstract rate is still largely irrelevant. The hard numbers of infected people -- including numbers of infected women -- I think are far more relevant.
154
posted on
03/21/2008 8:27:51 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: Alter Kaker
Oh? Were you posting to me?
155
posted on
03/21/2008 8:28:26 AM PDT
by
Judith Anne
(I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
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To: Dianna
It wasn't conservatives cheering them on. At least they limited themselves to the companies involved and didn't try to shame John Q Public.
No, but they still demanded resources funded by the American taxpayer to go after the tobacco co's.
They also used aspects of the shady Clinton Justice Dept. to twist laws and railroad the cases through. Much to the happiness of a large Democrat benefactor -the American Trial Lawyers Assn. Smokers were stripped of any responsibility in the matter.
Up next: Junk food producers and fast food restaurants.
157
posted on
03/21/2008 8:29:21 AM PDT
by
bamahead
(Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
To: Alter Kaker
No, I’m sixty. A widowed “breeder.”
You’ve had enough tolerance from me. No more without an apology.
158
posted on
03/21/2008 8:30:50 AM PDT
by
Judith Anne
(I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
To: metmom
Hey Homies Bush’s fault worked so well .... We can move on to part II.... ITS ALL WHITEYS FAULT...
159
posted on
03/21/2008 8:33:04 AM PDT
by
tomnbeverly
(Standing by for the inevitable: Conservatives are intent on stamping out MLK's Dream.)
To: metmom; 50sDad
Thats not killing a virus, technically. Not in the sense I think 50sDad meant, I think, but I dont want to put words in his mouth. Upon revisiting 50sDad's inquiry, I believe you are right.
But to answer the question: the only way we've killed viruses is through radiation in vitro...but never in vivo.
160
posted on
03/21/2008 8:34:31 AM PDT
by
Digital Sniper
(Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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