A brief for Whitey (“We hear the grievances. Where’s the gratitude?”)

World Net Daily ^ | March 21, 2008 | Patrick J Buchanan

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

[stevie_d_64]

Yep, that conversation helped...

Seems to me some in th eblack community just don’t want to talk about it except to rub noses in it when they feel like it...

Thats ok, if thye want to perpetuate, and live off the crutch of history long ago...

Nothing will ever be resolved...

[pnh102]

Second he files a discrinination complaint against me with my management.

Have you considered suing this individual in civil court? For me, I never try to discuss anything political at work, simply because I need my paycheck too much. If someone fired a shot across the bow at me like this, and I knew who they were, I would find the sleaziest lawyer I could get (that would work for a cut of the loot) and sue this person for everything he's got.

I hope you prevail.

[OpusatFR]

“I had a conversation similar to this with a black co worker

Second he files a discrinination complaint against me with my management.”

I don’t know what was said. But I assume the complaint was because you disagreed.

If this is so, then this is why I am most whites refuse to talk about race. There is nothing you can say that will not be twisted to become some racial insult.

My husband was talking to a subcontractor on a small house renovation about how black the floors were and how it was going to be hard to refinish them.

The black subcontractor immediately took that as a racial slur.

With nonsense like this, there is no discussion. Who wants to talk about race when there is no way it can be discussed openly. Besides which, I have heard nothing BUT race in 40 years. It has been talked to death at this point, but only in one direction.

So, no. Whitey will keep their thoughts to themselves until the Blacks can be honest enough to hear them.

[ichabod1]

Don’t count out the Wilder Effect. The TWP may not speak up but they’re not going to vote for the noose to be put around their necks.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

"So when we talk about White-on-Black slavery, was there perhaps a reason why it occurred? I believe there was.
The roll of the dice. It was our turn. Get over it, America.

What B.O. could have said in his speech but would never do so:

"Of course, I sincerely hope none of you ever learn what I and many other Blacks and Muslims know and do our best to keep this information hidden, that, according to Robert Davis between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and sold as slaves in North Africa and Ottoman Empire between the 16th and 19th centuries.

"Moreover, the coastal villages and towns of Italy, Portugal, Spain and Mediterranean islands were frequently attacked by them and long stretches of the Italian, Portuguese and Spanish coasts were almost completely abandoned by their inhabitants; after 1600 Barbary pirates occasionally entered the Atlantic and struck as far north as Iceland.

"What I would also want to keep quiet is the fact that the Atlantic slave trade peaked in the late 18th century, when the largest number of slaves were captured on raiding expeditions into the interior of West Africa.

"These expeditions were typically carried out by African kingdoms, such as the Oyo empire (Yoruba), Kong Empire, Kingdom of Benin, Kingdom of Fouta Djallon, Kingdom of Fouta Tooro, Kingdom of Koya, Kingdom of Khasso, Kingdom of Kaabu, Fante Confederacy, Ashanti Confederacy, Aro Confederacy and the kingdom of Dahomey. Bet you did not know that Europeans rarely entered the interior of Africa?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_trade#North_Africa

[Always Right]

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Funny, the Barack campaign post the greatest speech ever on you tube, but yet screens any opposing views or negative comments.

[Godwin1]

A Barack himself would say, Pat is just a “typical white person.”

[mad_as_he$$]

I will not have race discussion except with my very close white friends. The irrational response based on no facts from minorities is to much and I just do not fell like dealing with it.

1. It is ancient history so just get over it. The facts are that blacks did it to blacks first. All of my lily white ancestors were oppressed and enslaved by someone else. Does not bother me.

2. I could forget about race if you stopped rubbing my face in it.

[Stoat]

A wonderful, essential article. Thank you so very much for posting! :-)

[ontap]

For most of my life I have heard about the discrimination of white on black. I have stood and listened to countless lectures by black and white liberals and have often wondered if we would ever get past it. Maybe this will be the catalyst to end this insatiable guilt trip we have been forced on. It is time to tell the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons and all the other race baiters and welfare pimps to take a hike. My grandparents did not benefit from slavery,my parents did not benefit from slavery, I did not benefit from slavery and my kids and grandkids certainly did not benefit from slavery but all of us have had to pay for it. Enough is enough I think it’s time this group of people took responsibility for their own rotten choices.

[Darnright]

>Blacks should only be hounding whites who were here prior to the Civil War<

Dennis, the whites who’ve been here prior to the Civil War, including the ones that actually owned slaves (a minority) are all dead.

We’ve paid enough reparations, thank you. Hundreds of thousands of men died during the Civil War, and the country has paid billions in the War on Poverty.

At some point, we need to say enough. If a person in this country is poor, and especially uneducated, he MUST bear personal responsibility for his situation. If he is physically or mentally disabled, the rest of us should help him, of course.

[Hacklehead]

“Is Barack aware ...that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?”

Of course, why mug someone who has less money than you?

[ichabod1]

black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse,

I think we all know this is due to racism...

[originalbuckeye]

I understand from a Black coworker that our attempts will never be enough. My coworker is conservative and doesn't think this way but was brought up this way in the south. We will only be even after there is oppression of Whites by someone, maybe the Muslims that want to take over our country. I repeat, my coworker doesn't feel this way but has attended enough churches to know that many Blacks do.

[Farmer Dean]

My people got here in 1846,sick of fighting in the Prussian army.But just in time to don Union blue and fight.I figure blacks owe my family something when you get down to it.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

"For most of my life I have heard about the discrimination of white on black. I have stood and listened to countless lectures by black and white liberals and have often wondered if we would ever get past it. Maybe this will be the catalyst to end this insatiable guilt trip we have been forced on. It is time to tell the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons and all the other race baiters and welfare pimps to take a hike. My grandparents did not benefit from slavery,my parents did not benefit from slavery, I did not benefit from slavery and my kids and grandkids certainly did not benefit from slavery but all of us have had to pay for it. Enough is enough I think it’s time this group of people took responsibility for their own rotten choices.

Having grown up in the "Whitest" state (Vermont) in the Union (we had ONE black student in my high school of about 200 and 2 families in my town with a pop of about 6,000) I was woefully and blissfully ignorant regarding racial issues until I joined the AF in 1962.

Though not an issue in basic or for the 6 months I attended a technical school, racism did rear its head when I got stationed in Japan.

We (whites) and blacks each had their separate off-duty congregation places.

Whites went out one gate and blacks went thru the another.

We each frequented our own clubs, restaurants, laundries, stores, "hostesses," etc.

Not sure how long that practice had been ongoing or how it started, but it did not pose any serious problem as when working, we all seemed to get along and there was scant racial overtones or issues noticed.

One was judged by how well he (as there were no females) could accomplish their task--not by the color of their skin.

Sadly, much later, (in 70's and 80's) while living in N.J., was surprised to learn the degree of prejudice by blacks towards whites and it was not subtle by any means.

The moral? Yes, there has been and continues to be White racist, however, there is also considerable animosity by blacks towards whites as well as toward Latinos and orientals. However, no one dares even suggest this to be an issue or problem.

The moral?

WE are ALL vilains--they are ALL automatically, given a pass.

[Hacklehead]

“At some point, we need to say enough. If a person in this country is poor, and especially uneducated, he MUST bear personal responsibility for his situation. If he is physically or mentally disabled, the rest of us should help him, of course.”

Don’t blame me, I’m proud to be White Guilt Free! How’s that for a bumper sticker or tagline?

[fightinJAG]

I also don't often agree with Pat, but this is something that needs to be said. The days of race being a one-way conversation are over. . . IF people continue to speak up despite the initial blowback.

This bears repeating from the piece:

The "white community," said Barack, must start "acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination – and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past – are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds. ..."

And what deeds must we perform to heal ourselves and our country?

The "white community" must invest more money in black schools and communities, enforce civil rights laws, ensure fairness in the criminal justice system and provide this generation of blacks with "ladders of opportunity" that were "unavailable" to Barack's and the Rev. Wright's generations.

What is wrong with Barack's prognosis and Barack's cure?

Only this. It is the same old con, the same old shakedown that black hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission blamed the riots in Harlem, Watts, Newark, Detroit and a hundred other cities on, as Nixon put it, "everybody but the rioters themselves."

[SJackson]

This may not be a popular view here, but pat expounds the same kind of not so soft racism Obama does, both far short of Wright. You’ll note he accepts Wright’s vision of two Americas, and notes a litany of things “white America” has done for “black America”, a cohesive vision of America is foreign to Wright, Obama and Buchanan. For Buchanan it’s a white vs black world. No different than Wright.

[Dan Evans]

"Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?.

Blacks commit crimes more often that whites but you need to remember that, since blacks are only 12% of the population, a black criminal is more likely to victimize a white person that a white criminal will choose a black victim -- assuming victims are chosen at random.