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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Sorry to disapoint you with my writing style. Didn’t realize we were writing for a journal. Anyway, I guess you have to attack something. It is much better to discuss the facts and issues.

The problem with your statement is that Adams didn’t have very many followers. He kept the cabinet from Washington and they sabotaged him. When you say he played the game, are you referring to when he went against his own party to pursue peace with France or was it when he went against Jefferson’s party to prepare for war. Was it when he refused to be controlled by Hamilton or was it when he spent 7 months away from the capitol at home.

I don’t have a bubble to burst. I know that politics was a dirty business and that Adams participated but to say that he gave in to politics is to deny the facts. He did too many things that were detrimental to his own political future as President. He definitly wasn’t playing at politics when he sent the notice of peace from France to Jefferson to read on Senate floor. He gave his opponents what they wanted.

Anyway, just a discussion I am sad that you saw fit to cast insults instead of good discussion about politics and history when there is definitly a place for a discussion on this issue.


86 posted on 03/20/2008 7:02:35 PM PDT by cid89
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To: cid89
Your comment on Adams' time at home is interesting, because while being savaged as a "monarchist" and attacked by modern Libertarians as a heavy handed "big government" type, Adams in fact took a very "democratic" view of government, which was to do as little as possible, and that the government that was not there, couldn't do much!

Unlike Reagan, who hated government but genuinely enjoyed governING, Adams loved government, but hated governING.

87 posted on 03/21/2008 7:38:24 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: cid89
Anyway, I guess you have to attack something. It is much better to discuss the facts and issues. (. . .) Anyway, just a discussion I am sad that you saw fit to cast insults instead of good discussion about politics and history when there is definitly a place for a discussion on this issue.

Cry me a river. You cast the first stone:

Have you read the book or any history.

No; I just normally sound off about things about which I know nothing.

See Marbury v. Madison.

88 posted on 03/21/2008 10:31:22 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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