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To: suspects

I’m with Michael Graham on this. I was raised and educated a Catholic and while I heard a lot of liberal claptrap in homilies and classrooms, I never heard a racist remark or vulgar epithet in church. To the contrary, a lot of the priests and nuns would have had previous assignments in inner city schools or in the Deep South.

I refuse to believe that Rev. Wright’s UCC is a mainstream black church in the USA.


3 posted on 03/19/2008 3:02:18 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: Roy Tucker

After 9/11, I walked into Our Lady of Guadalupe Church in Cool Valley for Sunday Mass. When the priest started ranting about the “evil men controlled by Alan Greenspan”, I made my statement. I got up, genuflected and left, 10 feet from the priest. I never went back. I don’t however, have a racial community on which I have to base my political career.


9 posted on 03/19/2008 3:12:46 AM PDT by steve8714 (What hand does a Muslim amputee eat with?)
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To: Roy Tucker

I grew up in the Deep South. (Louisiana) I never heard any racial, (anti-black) stuff preached in church. For as long as I can remember, there were always a few blacks in church, and it was as fundy as you can get (A of G). Even now, my mother’s church is about 1/5 black. They wouldn’t stay if they heard any of this.


17 posted on 03/19/2008 3:42:03 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Roy Tucker; ClaudiusI; suspects; livius; Edgar3
Graham: "How does a uniter spend every Sunday in the pews where anti-white, anti-Semitic and anti-American conspiracies and kookery are preached on a regular basis?"

There are different theories about this which have been suggested by cult experts and the pundits.

"Subject: Obama - Jedi Knight [Rich Lowry] "I've been caught up in the fervor of the last few days of this Obama-Wright controversy and definitely thought the 'taost' analysis was right on the money. But darned if I don't see him beatifully executing jedi mind tricks - "These are not the droids you're looking for" - as this speech is delivered. And the crazy thing is, it's working on me!!" http://corner.nationalreview.com

Pretty scary.

"Contradiction [Jonah Goldberg] He says we need to air out and discuss the problems/issues of the black community and he also says we shouldn't be distracted so we can be united in our demands for universal healthcare and the like. So which is it? Should we talk about racism and black folks or should we galvanize for a transracial campaign? Should we be distracted or unified?"

http://corner.nationalreview.com

He wants to have it both ways. Or, in the language of North Korean Mind Control and schizophrenia - "cognitive dissonance" (the double bind).

Obama himself has written about inter-racial language as requiring "tricks" and "tactics". In his Philadelphia speech he parsed Wright's race baiting by suggesting it was understandable in the context of civil rights struggles 40 and 50 years ago and on a par with Geraldine Ferraro's comment about identity politics.

This is a debater's rhetorical trick: "I don't want to talk about that issue, but now that you have brought that up let me speak my mind on this..." He had a lot to say on the issues and controversies of Wright's racial invective which he previously claimed to know nothing about. It doesn't wash.

He is claiming not to do exactly what he then does. He joins a congregation with a racist ideology and then plays the innocent victim when he is exposed. Are we in the America of 2008 or 1963? He wants it both ways. He wants to pretend to be Martin Luther King and then cry foul when anyone calls him on it.

It's absurd to have to try to debate with this kind of contradiction. Any opposition or criticism will be met with the charge of racism or being unfair to him because of race. This isn't about Geraldine Ferraro, slavery, Jim Crow or Selma, Alabama. What's next, a sermon on the Nubians and Ethiopians building the Egyptian pyramids?

19 posted on 03/19/2008 3:49:43 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Roy Tucker
“I refuse to believe that Rev. Wright’s UCC is a mainstream black church in the USA.”

Black callers to Rush yesterday state that it is the norm... we just don't “understand the language”. Yeah... goebbels is proud of osamabama.

LLS

27 posted on 03/19/2008 4:21:42 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: Roy Tucker

Well, as a member of the ELCA for a number of years, I did hear anti-American talk from the pulpit after 9/11. But then I left that church for that very reason (along with another).

Obama hasn’t. And that’s the nut of it.


44 posted on 03/19/2008 5:43:32 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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