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To: BellStar
The Founders obviously meant to bestow gun rights on the individual, especially in a country that was largely wilderness in the 1790's. They knew that a citizen threatened by a wild, raging animal is not going to call a well-regulated militia for help.

Same applies to this sh**hole known as DC.
11 posted on 03/19/2008 3:44:05 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Thrownatbirth
Actually, it had nothing to do with wilderness living, hunting, or fighting off wild savages, etc. The 2nd Amendment was written specifically to address the greatest threat of all, tyranny. - “Fear the government that fears your guns.”
13 posted on 03/19/2008 4:11:40 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: Thrownatbirth
The Founders obviously meant to bestow gun rights on the individual

The Bill of Rights does not "bestow" rights. The Bill of Rights acknowledges certain God Given rights that were and are already in existence. In the case of the Second amendment, those rights ...."Shall not be infringed" is a powerful statement of how strong a block on interference with the Right to keep and bear arms our founding fathers had to incorporate into the "Bill of Rights" in order to get the People to ratify the Constitution.

RamS
21 posted on 03/19/2008 5:10:27 AM PDT by RamingtonStall (More Guns ==> Less Crime! Get your CHL today! http://www.ohioccw.org/)
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To: Thrownatbirth
The Founders obviously meant to bestow gun rights on the individual

Of course they did. For proof, and I haven't heard any one speak of it, we have The Bill of Rights.

Are we to believe that BOR, which are Of The People, By The People and For The Poeple....All 10 of those amendments are for US...all of them EXCEPT THAT ONE ???? Why not the 1st? You know, give the state the right to speak freely? Why isn't any one bringing that up? It's simple to see & understand, yet nary a peep.

Our Fore Fathers were brilliant, yet they dropped the ball on this one?

25 posted on 03/19/2008 5:20:31 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Thrownatbirth
“The Founders obviously meant to bestow gun rights on the individual, especially in a country that was largely wilderness in the 1790’s. They knew that a citizen threatened by a wild, raging animal is not going to call a well-regulated militia for help.”

Well, Thrownatbirth, I detect by your above writing that you are pro-gun as I am. So, I will ever so gently correct your stated premise concerning the reason for the 2nd ammendment as I can see that you are one of the good guys for sure. Here in Texas one will occasionally see a bumper sticker that states “The 2nd Amendment ain't about duck hunting”. While this statement is written in Bubba’ese, it absolutely nails the 2nd amendment. To put it more succinctly, the 2nd Amendment was written so to provide a last recourse for the general public (we the people aka individuals) to defend themselves against a corrupt government gone bad. And, it's no accident that the 2nd Amendment was #2 in the Bill of Rights as it was written to specifically to protect the 1st Amendment. All one must do to confirm this, along with the fact that the 2nd was written to apply to individuals as is the entire Constitution, is to read the Federalist Papers. I wish the Federalist Papers would be mandatory reading for all high school students but alas, with all the lib's in control of our public schools that ain't gonna happen. But, that's another subject...

27 posted on 03/19/2008 5:38:56 AM PDT by snoringbear (')
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To: Thrownatbirth
The Founders obviously meant to bestow gun rights on the individual, especially in a country that was largely wilderness in the 1790's. They knew that a citizen threatened by a wild, raging animal is not going to call a well-regulated militia for help.

Same applies to this sh**hole known as DC.

No, you are wrong.

The right to bear arms has NOTHING to do with the wilderness or wild animals. Thomas Jefferson told us very CLEARLY what the 2nd amendment means. Unfortunately social facists and a intentional dumbing down of our education system has created a very contitutionally stupid american citizen.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” - Thomas Jefferson

49 posted on 03/19/2008 8:57:07 AM PDT by 7mmMag@LeftCoast (The DNC and Rino's: they put the CON into congress everyday.)
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