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Summary: Justices on Right to Own Guns
AP ^ | 3/18/2008

Posted on 03/18/2008 4:06:43 PM PDT by semantic

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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I would be ecstatic about a 7-2 decision!

The most important part is to neuter the effect of the “militia” misdirection argument, and a 7-2 even narrowly based, could easily be the most important positive USSC ruling of my lifetime.


21 posted on 03/18/2008 5:13:52 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Ginsberg made comments that almost sounded that she is pondering the possibility of voting on the pro-gun side of this. That is really too much for me to hope for, though, and she talked out the other side of her mouth, too... I can’t recall any even moderately arguable situations that she voted the way I would favor.


22 posted on 03/18/2008 5:16:59 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: semantic
Americans are Clearly Divided on Gun Control!
The Weaver stance minimizes your target area but exposes the unprotected area below your armpit. This stance can make shooting while moving difficult. The Isosceles stance places your body armor between you and the threat and allows for ease of movement. However, it has limited application in fighting, since it exposes such vulnerable targets as the eyes, throat, and groin.

23 posted on 03/18/2008 5:27:08 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place

I’m leaning towards the Weaver stance.


24 posted on 03/18/2008 6:00:41 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (No better friend, no worse enemy)
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To: semantic

Agreed. The whole argument was based on historical context and construction... the USSC chose the playing field to be one that is extremely unfavorable to the defendants. That really gave me heart -— but still I will wait with trepidation for their decision.

I also believe that they were depending greatly, as they should, on the ruling and written decision of the lower court. Silberman’s argument that was as eloquently written decision as I believe I’ve ever read, and set up the USSC justices’ arguments, made the defendant’s job tougher and minimized the plaintiff’s need to argue their case to perfection. His beautiful lesson in the history of bearing arms in this United States was a godsend for defenders of the right to keep and bear arms. The plaintiffs mostly needed to show up and agree with Silberman. He put a lot of stock in Miller in the portion of his examining arguments that mostly presented the more favorable aspects of DCs case. That the USSC seemed almost to have tossed Miller aside, almost as if it is irrelevant, during their questioning weakened DCs hand, I believe.

Silberman really set up this whole USSC argument. I encourage anybody who has not read it to take a long look at it. One place it can be found right now is here: http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/common/opinions/200703/04-7041a.pdf but it is widely available ... Look for Parker, et.al., vs. District of Columbia ... decision on 9 March 2007.


25 posted on 03/18/2008 6:04:40 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: semantic

I just listened to about an hour on CSPAN. Dellinger spoke, then the Solicitor General and finally the lawyer (Duras) for the plaintiff.

I got the impression that Stevens and Ginsburg were “on the fence” or squidgy. I think 9-0 is possible, but it seems that what Roberts was trying to attain was a 7-2. This is my humble non-lawyerly opinion.

I will submit that Roberts framed this nicely over and over again (followed by Alito, magnificently by Scalia and surprisingly by Souter and Kennedy) in terms of “original intent” and Miller.


26 posted on 03/18/2008 6:15:30 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: AFPhys
Ginsberg has said in the past that she saw it as an individual right.
27 posted on 03/18/2008 6:17:20 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

If Ginsberg joins Thomas in this opinion, the Libs are going to have a massive heart attack.


28 posted on 03/18/2008 6:45:08 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys
Ginsberg will vote for the individual right...and seek to expand the decision to "reasonable regulation".

I think the left almost wants to see ALL gun law overturned in order to drive an Amendment to the Constitution restricting the 2nd.

29 posted on 03/18/2008 7:28:35 PM PDT by Mariner
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