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Court hears guns case (Justice Kennedy, Second Amendment gives "a general right to bear arms")
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| 3/18/08
| Mark Sherman - ap
Posted on 03/18/2008 9:45:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: xsrdx
...if you can hang with the initial flogging...
You must have been a very bad person. =) (j/k)
121
posted on
03/18/2008 8:02:49 PM PDT
by
Redcitizen
(What we need is a Grand Army of the Republic.)
To: Travis McGee
Re: full auto - I never could hit the broad side of a barn with it. But if I were organizing a light infantry platoon or resistance cell, I'd want a couple of auto riflemen thrown in the mix.
Besides, "shall not be infringed". Give the bastards an inch and, well, here we sit.
But agreed, aimed fire - long distance aimed fire - is the way to run a backyard fireworks show.
122
posted on
03/18/2008 8:04:27 PM PDT
by
LTCJ
(God Save the Constitution)
To: supercat
Well I’m for stricter sentences across the board. I would have alot more prisons operating, maybe more than some here would want, maybe less.
Our justice system has created and continues to create a new class of citizens, the criminal class. They cause harm, get caught (hopefully), get convicted (hopefully), and imprisoned. Unfortunately in many cases these people become more dangerous, and then they are released into our civilization to pick up where they left off.
Could be gang bangers, could be twisted individuals, I would prefer they were sent away for long stretches.
2-5 for robbery? make it 12-15. 5-10 for assault? 20-25.
rape? murder? life sounds good to me.
Too much?
To: Rick.Donaldson
But, look around you at the idiocy of the laws. The same people that want to BAN GUNS are the same idiots that think abortion is OK, but executing a criminal is BAD. Blacks don't want more prisons and longer sentences, but look who is the victims those particular criminals. HEL-LOOO!
124
posted on
03/18/2008 8:58:09 PM PDT
by
oyez
(Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
To: BigBadVoodooDaddy
Too much? The problem is that the government fills the prisons with too many people who are comparatively harmless, rather than keeping in prison those people who really need to be there. It also gives a free pass to some government personnel who really deserve prison.
To: jrp
jrp said:
Im expecting a mealy-mouthed have it both ways ruling. If the DC ban stands, all is lost.
If the case is remanded with a lesser standard than "strict scrutiny", then there will soon be a "blue" America and a "red" America, with little in common.
I see little to suggest that Roberts, Thomas, Scalia, and Alito will join in a "mealy-mouthed" decision.
The weakest decision I see is for an individual right and a punt on the level of scrutiny, with a statement that ANY LEVEL OF SCRUTINY bars the DC ban. Roberts has expressed the opinion that these decisions should be no broader than is necessary to address the issues before the Court.
The worst of all worlds will be if Kennedy joins the four communists and votes to permit disarming of the American people. There will be little that one could call "mealy-mouthed" about that.
I believe that the four conservatives are too strong to be dragged off point by Kennedy. They may have to compromise the scope of the decision, but not its correctness. If that happens, I foresee a separate concurring opinion from the four conservatives, demonstrating very clearly how important it will be to control future appointments to the Supreme Court.
126
posted on
03/18/2008 9:24:19 PM PDT
by
William Tell
(RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
To: MortMan
"Does that make it unreasonable for a city with a very high crime rate...to say no handguns here?" Breyer said. Let's rephrase slightly and see if this passes the smell test:
Let me try rephrasing that too: "Does that make it unreasonable for a city with a very low birth rate...to say no abortions here?"
127
posted on
03/18/2008 9:30:34 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(Texas: "We close at five.")
To: Mr. Mojo
The mayor of D.C. took the mic (on what looked like the steps of SCOTUS) and proclaimed that (paraphrased) "the citizens of the District overwhelmingly support the current (gun prohibitive) lawsIt wasn't so many years ago that the citizens of Birmingham overwhelmingly supported segregation and Jim Crow laws. And going back a little more in time, the citizens of Charleston overwhelmingly supported enslaving the Negro race. Were those justified as well Mr. Mayor because that's what the citizens overwhelmingly wanted?
128
posted on
03/18/2008 9:37:50 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(Texas: "We close at five.")
To: BigBadVoodooDaddy
“When there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them.”
Atlas Shrugged
I think the ol gal was right on the money with this one.
Welcome to FR
129
posted on
03/18/2008 9:38:49 PM PDT
by
herewego
(Got .45?)
To: LTCJ
If it comes to CW2, our semi-autos would be enough to procure an ongoing supply of full-autos from govt stocks.
130
posted on
03/19/2008 4:58:28 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
To: Mr. Mojo
Excellent news, and thanks for the update. I haven't had the free time lately to monitor things as closely as they warrant.
131
posted on
03/19/2008 5:14:35 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
(Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
To: BigBadVoodooDaddy
Many states do just that. Often the gun charge brings more time than the actual crime committed.
132
posted on
03/19/2008 5:19:05 AM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
To: Travis McGee
That would be the plan. The ammo itself would be more critical.
133
posted on
03/19/2008 5:21:32 AM PDT
by
LTCJ
(God Save the Constitution)
To: PubliusMM; Always Right
I agree although it might be a 6-3 depending on how narrow the majority decision is. If it is very narrow and relates to being able to keep a gun in your house for self defense - the real question before the court. Then it will be 6-3. Inspite of all of the hoopla the Court was asked a relatively narrow question and all of those who think this case will settle all regarding the 2A will be disappointed.
134
posted on
03/19/2008 5:24:28 AM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
To: RetiredArmy
We are confident, said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb, that the high court will hand down an opinion that affirms the Second Amendment means what it says. Based on the questions that the justices asked, it is clear that they read the amicus briefs submitted by our side in support of District resident Dick Anthony Heller. We were impressed with the depth of questions asked by all of the justices, and we have no doubt that the court has a clear understanding of Second Amendment history, and that the people are all citizens.
It is my understanding that you cannot go by the questions the judges ask or statements they make at the hearings
This was pointed out on other SCOTUS hearings on other cases by members here
135
posted on
03/19/2008 5:26:23 AM PDT
by
uncbob
To: mad_as_he$$
Inspite of all of the hoopla the Court was asked a relatively narrow question and all of those who think this case will settle all regarding the 2A will be disappointed. No, but it should at least get rid of the boatload of academia BS about how the 2nd Amendment is meant for the state's militia.
136
posted on
03/19/2008 5:48:53 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: Always Right
Yes, It is my true desire to cut a large layer of BS off the top.
137
posted on
03/19/2008 6:45:27 AM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
To: Travis McGee
If it comes to CW2, our semi-autos would be enough to procure an ongoing supply of full-autos from govt stocks.If it comes to CW2, I would expect a non-trivial supply of full-autos from govt stocks to transferred by their "custodians".
138
posted on
03/19/2008 7:21:35 AM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: DuncanWaring
139
posted on
03/19/2008 9:41:13 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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