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To: robertpaulsen

“A well regulated Militia was one that was organized, trained, disciplined, armed and accoutered with officers appointed by the state.” - RP

Not so fast - Private militias, without “State” appointments of officers are equally valid.

You are inventing a state requirement where there is none.

Please back your extraordinary claim that all valid militias had state appointed officers, or withdraw it.


80 posted on 03/18/2008 8:11:00 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple
"Not so fast - Private militias, without “State” appointments of officers are equally valid."

"Valid" in what sense?

I'm not sure the states even recognize them -- certainly not when it comes to arming them. Wasn't there a controversy involving the Michigan Militia or Montana Militia?

"Please back your extraordinary claim that all valid militias had state appointed officers"

The militia of the U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 8) is the same militia as that of the second amendment. The militia of the U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 8) specifies that officers are to be appointed by each state.

84 posted on 03/18/2008 8:22:23 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Triple
Up until the Militia Act of 1903, also known as the Dick Act, state militias either elected their own officers or had them appointed by the governor.

A perfect example of this is the 1st Volunteer US Cavalry.
Colonel Leonard Wood commanding. Wood had resigned his regular army commission to head this ad hoc unit with Teddy as Lt Colonel.

Milita or volunteer units at the outset of the War Between the States were all officered by elected or appointed men from the ranks. One of the reasons so many of the early battles were defeats for the Union is the lack of trained officers in command of what can really be considered irregulars.

The Dick Act corrected a lot of issues that dealt with commissioned, breveted, and volunteer officers into one heirarchy of officer corp.

85 posted on 03/18/2008 8:23:51 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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