Posted on 03/17/2008 7:44:22 AM PDT by Terriergal
Much better to call someone a "liar" without any proof on your side, which is not only foolish but were you someone who actually mattered you would have opened yourself to a libel suit. (But, of course, since you aren't anyone of any consequence, there would be no point in suing you.) You don't have to believe her. Calling her a "liar" based on nothing? You've left solid ground.
BEDEMIR: How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2: She looks like one.
BEDEMIR: Bring her forward.
WITCH: I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEMIR: But you are dressed as one.
WITCH: They dressed me up like this.
CROWD: No, we didn't... no.
WITCH: And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.
BEDEMIR: Well?
VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEMIR: The nose?
VILLAGER #1: And the hat -- but she is a witch!
CROWD: Burn her! Witch! Witch! Burn her!
BEDEMIR: Did you dress her up like this?
CROWD: No, no... no ... yes. Yes, yes, a bit, a bit.
VILLAGER #1: She has got a wart.
BEDEMIR: What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEMIR: A newt?
VILLAGER #3: I got better.
VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!
CROWD: Burn! Burn her!
BEDEMIR: Quiet, quiet. Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
CROWD: Are there? What are they?
BEDEMIR: Tell me, what do you do with witches?
VILLAGER #2: Burn!
CROWD: Burn, burn them up!
BEDEMIR: And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1: More witches!
VILLAGER #2: Wood!
BEDEMIR: So, why do witches burn?
[pause]
VILLAGER #3: B--... 'cause they're made of wood...?
BEDEMIR: Good!
CROWD: Oh yeah, yeah...
BEDEMIR: So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
VILLAGER #1: Build a bridge out of her.
BEDEMIR: Aah, but can you not also build bridges out of stone?
VILLAGER #2: Oh, yeah.
BEDEMIR: Does wood sink in water?
VILLAGER #1: No, no.
VILLAGER #2: It floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1: Throw her into the pond!
CROWD: The pond!
BEDEMIR: What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1: Bread!
VILLAGER #2: Apples!
VILLAGER #3: Very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1: Cider!
VILLAGER #2: Great gravy!
VILLAGER #1: Cherries!
VILLAGER #2: Mud!
VILLAGER #3: Churches -- churches!
VILLAGER #2: Lead -- lead!
ARTHUR: A duck.
CROWD: Oooh.
BEDEMIR: Exactly! So, logically...,
VILLAGER #1: If... she.. weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood.
BEDEMIR: And therefore--?
VILLAGER #1: A witch!
Good reasoning. So, I assume you will have no complaints the next time someone wants to ban the Bible from a school library?
I googled “James Joyce death threats and Ulysses” and nothing came up. Were the threats you mention specifically from Christians?
Jim Jones not only called for murder, he committed murder...during the Inquisition also there were persons beheaded for "blasphemy". As well, the two daughters of Henry VII killed protestants and Roman Catholics repectively for their counter beliefs.
Sure there are the occasional nutbags like Fred Phelps and his little girl Shirley, but are they actually representative of Christian Fundamentalism? Because frankly, the title "Evangelical" has been coopted/commandeered by the religious left like Jim Wallis, Tony Campolo, Brian McLaren, Rob Bell and others, and the left has coopted the title "Fundamentalist" to illustrate people like Westboro Westbroodofvipers Baptist... so who are the ones in between there? We get lumped in with Shirley Phelps Roper and her hateful bunch simply because we avoid fads for cryin out loud!
If they prescribed to the notion that the universe is a mere 10,000 years old and created in six 24-hour periods, that "Jonah was swallowed up by a great fish and lived in its belly for 3 days," that "a great flood covered the entire earth 6,000 years ago," etc., etc., instead of the symbolic interpretation of Scripture then, yes, all fundamentalists are "nutbags"!
Satan has been busy
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/signs_of_satan.htm
*ahem* Actually that very thing happened to me when I was a kid. I wanted to read a book on space exploration that was above my grade level and the teacher forbid me to check it out from the library.
After I told my mom about that we went out and bought my own copy that very night.
When I brought it to school the teacher was FURIOUS and confiscated my personal copy.
BAD mistake...
Oh, they have the right to try. And I have the right to stand against them. We are both taxpayers, doncha know.
Just because a taxpayer speaks up about what he does or does not want his tax money spent on doesn't mean he is infringing on my right to spend my own personal money on that thing.
I doubt you will find any such thing. People tend to revise history to fit their own requirements.
Ulysses was considered somewhat pornographic for its time. When I read it in college (many eons ago) a professor told us that James Joyce had received death threats by especially the Roman Catholic community of his native Ireland but also by many mainline fundamental protestant circles in the USA.
The goat beard you’re talking about, are you referring to the photo of Rick Warren? I can’t say his “goat” would inspire imitation! Nor his penchant for wearing Hawaian shirts!
Do you realize that Jesus was summing up the 10 Commandments when He said “Love the Lord God with all your heart, and soul and mind” and “Love your neighbor as yourself.”
Within the 10 commandments these 10 Commandments are also summary statements, summing up all the laws given in Leviticus. One is “Thou shalt not commit adultery.”
How is sleeping with your neighbor’s wife loving your neighbor, as Jesus instructed?
Jesus talked about forgiveness, but that doesn’t get rid of negative consequences for what you do. If we shouldn’t stone adulterers anymore, are you for not executing murderers? Are there no temporal or eternal consequences for sin anymore? No, there are both. Jesus said forgive. That doesn’t mean there aren’t any penalties to those that commit terrible sins.
A big reason to forgive is for your own health. Hate stops your life from moving on. You need to forgive because it will eat you up spiritually. Part of being able to forgive is knowing justice will be done, now and in the future.
I wish she would shut up, she’s ruining the books for me.
I assume a simple phone call from your mother to the principle resolved the problem? The teacher obviously was way out of line. I've seen no evidence that any Chrisitian has been going around doing that kind of thing.
It is enough for me to say that the work being discussed here interferes with what is true and leads people astray from the Truth.
This is a fallen world, as a Christian, my renewed mind needs ongoing cleansing and refreshment. God's chief agent of purifying my mind is His Word (John 15:3; Eph. 5:26).
1)Colossians 3:10--"Put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One who created him."
2)Romans 12:1-2--Paul says, "I urge you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect."
3)Romans 14:19-21--"Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another. For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence. It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
4)Romans 16:17-19--"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
5)Ephesians 4:23--"Be renewed in the spirit of your mind."
6)Phillippians 4:8-- "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."
7)1 Thessalonians 5:21--"Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good."
8)Titus 1:15-16-- "Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate."
As one of you two rightly stated - and as you see- I believe God's Word is pure.
It was a master of the obvious moment. ;)
To defend Liz, she only did this after the Pope issued a fatwa against her.
That’s exactly my take on it. I do not agree with the earlier poster who attributed Dumbledore’s fondness for Harry and others to a romantic attachment.
I think he spent his life crushing any gay notions he might have had. Remember how he put the mirror away because he was afraid of what he might see in it.
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