Hundreds dead in Tibet unrest: parliament-in-exile

AFP ^ | 03/17/08

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Hundreds dead in Tibet unrest: parliament-in-exile

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Tibet's prime minister-in-exile said Monday that around 100 people have died in unrest in the Chinese-ruled region, while the Tibetan parliament reported hundreds killed.

"It's very difficult to have precise numbers, but I think it's almost close to the number of 100," Samdhong Rinpoche told reporters in Dharamshala, home to the Dalai Lama and the seat of the exiled Tibetan government and parliament.

"We are requesting the international community and the United Nations send delegations or commissions inside Tibet," he added.

The Tibetan parliament in the northern Indian hilltop town said in a statement it believed "hundreds" of Tibetans had died.

"The massive demonstrations that started from March 10 in the capital city of Lhasa and other regions of Tibet, resulting (in the) death of hundreds of Tibetans, and subsequent use of force... needs to be brought to the attention of the United Nations and the international community," the statement said.

China has rejected charges many have died in the unrest, saying on Monday that Tibetan rioters killed 13 "innocent civilians" during violent protests in Lhasa, and that it did not use lethal force to quell the rioting.

The parliament statement said exiled leaders in Dharamshala had formed an "information monitoring committee" to gather information from inside Tibet following days of unrest and a Chinese crackdown.

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Ping!

[indcons]

I’m sure the 1 or 2 ChiCom trolls on FR are celebrating with bloodthirsty glee.

A pox on the inhuman ChiComs and their global enablers.

[Mopp4]

I’m confused as to the number of dead. Is it “around 100” or is it “close to the number 100” or is it “hundreds dead” as suggested by the title ?

[TigerLikesRooster]

PM in Tibetan gov in exile — about 100

Tibetan Parliamnet in exile — hundreds

[Abathar]

I find the timing interesting, with the Olympic games coming up in August were these protests done to maximize exposure to the press and to gain sympathy in the reporting?

[Caramelgal]

China has rejected charges many have died in the unrest, saying on Monday that Tibetan rioters killed 13 "innocent civilians" during violent protests in Lhasa, and that it did not use lethal force to quell the rioting.

This seems a typical response from the Chi-Coms; deny and then blame someone else. So they are claiming that it was actually the rioters protesters that killed “innocent civilians”?

I wonder what the economic impact would be if enough counties boycotted the Olympics and then started seriously boycotting Chinese goods and pulling out investments in a similar fashion as the pressure that was put on South Africa in protest of apartheid?

But then that’s not about to happen is it?; as we have become so very dependent on the Chinese economy and their cheap (shoddy and poisonous) goods.

[YaoYiNBA]

PM in Tibetan gov in exile — about 100

Tibetan Parliamnet in exile — hundreds

have you checked the gas price lately? it's called inflation, my friend.

[Thrownatbirth]

Remember that these are pre-Olympic trials and the number of dead Tibetans will not count towards any medal totals.

[RoadTest]

It should be China giving away land, not Israel. China claims Tibet is its own. Why? What good does it do China? Tibet is a whole different culture and frame of mind. Let it go, China Let it go.

And why does China need Taiwan? Taiwan doesn’t want you. They went there in the first place to get away from your form of government. Let them go and let them be, China.

You have enough land and enough people.

[dljordan]

“It should be China giving away land, not Israel. China claims Tibet is its own. Why? What good does it do China? Tibet is a whole different culture and frame of mind. Let it go, China Let it go.”

Land route to India?

[CarrotAndStick]

Exactly.

Prior to WW2, the British specifically mentioned the importance of keeping Tibet free to protect their subcontinental empire from both the Russians and the Chinese.

Tibet was the buffer state, now no more.

[cmdjing]

Indeed it was the rioters that were killing civilians including women and children and not Chinese police shooting oh so innocent protesters.

See various sources here

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/335453/1/.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3556473.ece?token=null&offset=0

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0314/p99s07-woap.html?page=1

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/15/tibet.china2

http://www.individual.com/story.php?story=79360808

So what we have is multiple independent first person accounts (with names sourced)as reported by different news sources on attacks against private property and individuals. The level of assault range from beatings with rocks up to stabbings and arson with intent to kill.

This is somehow ignored in favour of the unsubstantiated claims that only Tibetans have been killed by the self-proclaimed government in exile who has an explicit agenda to inflate casualties for the purpose of shrill lecturing. This is ironic because no one seems to give Hamas too much thrift when they claim 123 children killed by Israelies but are willing to swallow Tibetan claims wholesale when all available evidence points to the contrary.

[Brian S. Fitzgerald]

Time to play your Kosovo card, President Bush.

[Caramelgal]

Indeed it was the rioters that were killing civilians including women and children and not Chinese police shooting oh so innocent protesters.

Quote from the first article:

Many Chinese were running for their lives," Alonso said, estimating that he had seen at least 35 ethnic Chinese covered in blood, but had not seen any dead.

And:

"I was not afraid," continued Alonso. "I knew they weren't going after me. It would be one thing if they said 'get the Spaniard,' but the Tibetans were going after the Chinese."… the Chinese military rolled in with tanks and armoured vehicles…"There was a time (Friday night) when shots were fired. Then on Saturday morning there were shots -- several bursts of them." …"With every passing moment, there were more and more soldiers.” Guess who had the guns? It wasn’t the Tibetans.

From the second article:

It began with an attack on monks near one of Lhasa’s temples. The security forces are reported to have beaten a couple of monks with their fists and this led to a monk retaliating by throwing stones at police and police vehicles. Nearby crowds then joined in, throwing stones at Chinese shops and businesses. So some Buddhist monks were peacefully protesting when “security forces” (read Chinese) beat the monks up and some people got angry, very angry and honestly, I don’t blame them.

And:

”At the outset, the violence was also directed at passers-by who appeared to be ethnic Chinese. I saw one boy on a bicycle and people throwing stones towards him. As a foreigner, like other foreigners in Lhasa, I was treated with respect by the demonstrators. When I rushed forward to stop them attacking the boy, they ceased throwing their stones. It would seem their anger is not directed at anyone but their Chinese occupiers .

From the third article:

"The residents are very angry. They are throwing stones at anyone who is Han [Chinese] or from other minorities like the Hui, who are Muslims. It seems like it's ethnic - like they want to kill anyone not Tibetan.

Actually it sounds like the “rioters” or “protesters” or “freedom fighters” or whatever we should call them, were attacking ethnic Chinese business and ethnic Chinese. They certainly were not attacking Tibetans or evidently other foreigners.

I guess technically they were attacking “civilians” and while I don’t condone attacking women and children or rioting in general, I understand their anger and frustration. Remember that during the American Revolution patriot colonists were known to attack those openly sympathetic to the British Crown and tarred and feathered a few “innocent civilians” in the process.

The brutal Maoist Communist Government of China invaded Tibet in 1949 and has over the years not only killed tens of thousands of Tibetan civilians, force an untold number of others into labor camps or “relocated” them forcibly from their native land but has also instituted a form of apartheid wherein the Chi-Coms have relocated Han and Hui ethnic Chinese into Tibet and displaced native Tibetans from their homes and businesses in an effort to destroy their will, independent spirit and cultural and religious traditions, all in the name of forcing the Tibetans (and the Han and Hui) into being “good and obedient” Communists.

as reported by different news sources on attacks against private property and individuals.

I really don’t think there is any such thing as “private property” under Communist rule.

The level of assault range from beatings with rocks up to stabbings and arson with intent to kill.

And the People’s “Liberation” Army will answer those rocks with heavy armored vehicles and machine guns.

This is somehow ignored in favour of the unsubstantiated claims that only Tibetans have been killed by the self-proclaimed government in exile who has an explicit agenda to inflate casualties for the purpose of shrill lecturing.

It is actually the Communist Chinese government that have an agenda and a long history of making unsubstantiated claims and engaging in “shrill lecturing”.

This is ironic because no one seems to give Hamas too much thrift when they claim 123 children killed by Israelies but are willing to swallow Tibetan claims wholesale when all available evidence points to the contrary.

I really don’t get your comparison of the plight of people of Tibet, those suffering under a brutal Communist regime, only wanting their freedom and not wanting to destroy any other nation, religion or culture in the process, with Hamas, a terrorist organization. The Tibetans are not terrorists. They just want their country back.

[TigersEye]

cmdjing is an agent of the PRC or a volunteer apologist for them. If you search his comments page you will quickly see that. He’s not alone.