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Bad Monday in Asia
Yahoo!Finance ^ | 03/17/08

Posted on 03/16/2008 7:34:49 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: Nervous Tick
When everyone's euphoric...sell.

When everyone's prophesying doom...buy. This is doom week.

81 posted on 03/16/2008 8:23:07 PM PDT by what's up
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To: stockstrader

Cold and windy here in NY. But, the beer is green for the day.


82 posted on 03/16/2008 8:23:16 PM PDT by Bogie
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That’s alright with me. May the punishment come in the form of a now-needed 1.25% rate cut and $200 oil. We need new blood in business anyway: enterprising, young graduates compelled to team-up to do domestic manufacturing and put an end to the slovenly shell games that we’ve been seeing.

We can use much less fuel with another production (and thereby, pro-family) paradigm. “Do real work by making products!” (and “One car in every garage!”). Those have a ring to them. :-)


83 posted on 03/16/2008 8:23:42 PM PDT by familyop (Lowly, worthless male weekend warrior trash has-been with no degree.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

>> Capital is beyond tight. It’s not gonna get pried loose for anything except a really good bargain.

And inflation? Will that pry it loose from safe investments, simply out of necessity to protect it?

(We’re in for a healthy dose of the “big I”, I fear.)


84 posted on 03/16/2008 8:24:29 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: BigBadVoodooDaddy
But with Bear Stearns getting bought for 2-double cheeseburgers a share, who knows?

Great representation!

I think the Fed with their rate cut has instead of helping the market, done a lot of damage to it signaling a panic atmosphere.

But I've outlined that in a post a few posts back so won't pound the point.

But people are gonna look at that billionaire brit (don't remember his name) can lose $800 million AND THAT ON FRIDAY(!!) then the average schmoe investor has to wonder how much his paltry investment is worth.

IMHO the Fed has created the perfect atmosphere for a run!

85 posted on 03/16/2008 8:25:33 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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To: the invisib1e hand; HeartlandOfAmerica

Gee ya think!

I don’t know anything about investments, but I know bankers don’t work on EFFING SUNDAY! As soon as I read that about rate cuts today to thwart a run on the banks monday, I was on the phone lickety split calling people more knowledgeable than me trying to figure out what the F is going on!

You know what I was told? “well I’ve been expecting it for a while now, that’s why I’ve been hoarding gasoline in cans lately and a year supply of food.”

SHIT!

I don’t think I’m going to sleep much tonight.


86 posted on 03/16/2008 8:25:35 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: Nervous Tick
And inflation? Will that pry it loose from safe investments, simply out of necessity to protect it?

I don't know. Ultimately there's only one investment that's perceived as safe, and it isn't gold at 1030 an ounce.

And there's your proof that we're already experiencing Big I inflation -- commodities prices. That's been no secret for several years, although it's been treated like one, for the heed its gotten.

87 posted on 03/16/2008 8:27:33 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian.)
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To: mamelukesabre

...that’s why I’ve been hoarding gasoline in cans lately and a year supply of food.”


Uh okay. I wish them will with that strategy.


88 posted on 03/16/2008 8:29:21 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Nervous Tick

I made mention somewhere on FR — I think it was on the Massachusetts Fed thread — that Henry Paulson’s comments on the Stephanopolous show would scare the begeezus out of any market. It was absolutely among the worst sentences he could have uttered. I heard a clip — even his tone of voice sounded shaky.


89 posted on 03/16/2008 8:29:37 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

>> I don’t know. Ultimately there’s only one investment that’s perceived as safe

conventional wisdom says that’s US Treasuries. But what does it mean to YOU?


90 posted on 03/16/2008 8:30:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
They wanted our markets and wouldn't trade. Anyways we gave them dollars.

Who's hooked on who here? Who is the addict?

What are Chinese Communist millionaires going to do with boat loads of devaluing dollars? Buy gold, along with everyone else?

How is the price of oil and imported commodities working for China and then exporting and getting paid in decreasing dollars? Must be fun to be a Chines working stiff, middle class worker.

And now riots in lovely fraternal partners of Tibet.
Thank God for the Summer Olympics. The clamp should really be down in the Imperial City.

91 posted on 03/16/2008 8:30:42 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Tomorrow you will see the Fed enter the stock market through surrogates to buy Dow and Nasdaq componants with printed money to artificially bolster the market. What has happened here was the push to let more people have a piece of the pie resulting now in no pie for those who deserve pie. Total social engineering turned into horror. We were poorly led.


92 posted on 03/16/2008 8:31:12 PM PDT by sammyjo
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

If JPM had paid $30-40 per share for BSC, the markets would have been in a good mood. JPM may loose more in portfolio losses tomorrow than it would have cost for them to put up a decent price for BSC. Titanic portfolio losses around the world from this poorly thought out move. Overly greedy, me thinks.


93 posted on 03/16/2008 8:31:12 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: Leisler

“What are Chinese Communist millionaires going to do with boat loads of devaluing dollars? Buy gold, along with everyone else?”

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Keep in mind, the Renminbi is virtually pegged to the dollar.

So as the dollar goes, so also...


94 posted on 03/16/2008 8:34:11 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Nervous Tick
conventional wisdom says that’s US Treasuries. But what does it mean to YOU?

I can only give you my hunch. At the end of the day, when the rubber meets the road, it's still US Treasuries. When all the hyperbole and bluster is stripped away from market commentary, if you're a fiduciary, there's nowhere else to put your capital. It's "The Mattress," and it pays a little interest.

I think ultimately, America, with its market economy and its Constitutional Republican, and even firepower, is the best bet in times of uncertainty.

I have wondered, for years, when the Euro would start a bidding war for capital -- in other words, when the Euro would make EU bonds competitive. I don't know if we're there yet. If you were Bill Gross, I don't think you'd be in too much of a hurry to invest in a newly wired band of countries with socialist economies and growing population of angry Muslims.

Again, it's all just a hunch.

So, probably most stays in US, some to EU, some to EMEA.

95 posted on 03/16/2008 8:35:59 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Keep in mind, the Renminbi is virtually pegged to the dollar.

Not for long.

96 posted on 03/16/2008 8:38:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian.)
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97 posted on 03/16/2008 8:41:05 PM PDT by tapatio
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To: sammyjo
Tomorrow you will see the Fed enter the stock market through surrogates to buy Dow and Nasdaq componants with printed money to artificially bolster the market.

Is that why they have been ending 'up' after a bad day?

98 posted on 03/16/2008 8:41:50 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: the invisib1e hand

I’ve been playing long and short for the past few months. Worked out ok except for the past few weeks - much to volatile to move to the right position for not a day trader. Just two days ago I had 1000 TWM, sold out Thursday, was happy Friday at 9:30, sad at 11. Previous holder of FXP, got out before the 80 mark, didn’t get back in, boo-hoo. SKF, cry me a river - I had 1000 shares sold much too early (115). Who would have thought. I guess I cannot handle 10-20% moves in a day.


99 posted on 03/16/2008 8:42:16 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: the invisib1e hand

Keep in mind, the Renminbi is virtually pegged to the dollar.

“Not for long.”

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LOL.

Sure thing. I’ll stand here and hold my breath.

OK. Go.....................

/s


100 posted on 03/16/2008 8:42:16 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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