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To: BroJoeK; spanalot

“Anyway, good post, Verginius.”

And great posts, CZB, ohioman & Ditto.

All this becasue of spanalot, who probably learned nothing from it.

But I enjoyed it!


I kinda got lumped in on the matter of nuking Moscow, which I never said anything about one way or the other, though even with the advantage of hindsight I would have never advocated that anyway.

The US wasn’t gonna conquer Russia in 1945-46 even if we had 10 nukes to drop. But I do I think FDR could have saved eastern Europe and thus moved the Cold War lines a little closer by heeding Churchill’s advice re: the Soviets. And Patton’s advice too. Subsequently, as well, there were other opportunities to quicken the Cold War, 1948 and East Germany (an uprising that lacked only our support), 1956 and Hungary, 1968 and Prague—a lot of people fell down on the job for a very long time.

I don’t want to trash anyone here though. I appreciate spanalot’s point about our atomic weapons program being delayed in part because it was rancid with Soviet agents. I think that was disputed somewhere in this thread but it’s beyond dispute. Fuchs, Oppenheimer, the young genius whose name I always forget, the whole New York cell, all the infiltrators in Britain—there are entire books people can read about this subject. And of course the Eisenhower administration WAS infiltrated. Read the KGB-Mitrochin files if you don’t think so. It’s a big, complicated story.

Anyway, Bro, glad you enjoyed it.


190 posted on 03/19/2008 5:07:40 PM PDT by CZB
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To: CZB
Subsequently, as well, there were other opportunities to quicken the Cold War, 1948 and East Germany (an uprising that lacked only our support)...

I doubt that supporting any German uprising in 1948 would have been very popular with the American people. There was little in the way of sympathy then.

194 posted on 03/19/2008 8:32:20 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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