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To: Strategerist

You are saying the Bible - a book written over a period of 1500 years which is coherent and clear in its revelation of the GOD who is the Creator and Redeemer of mankind, who dealt with real people over centuries....people and locations who have been confirmed as REAL by hundreds of historic documents and archeological evidence -—— presents truth on the par with some stupid theory of aliens which has NO, ZERO. substantiation by historic documents and tons of documentary evidence?

The Bible is the best selling book of all time in all the world in all of history. It is treated as GOD’s OWN WORD by millions of human beings down through the centuries and by the one man of all the world’s “religious” leaders whose GRAVE is empty and never proved to be anything other than a miraculous resurrection after death of this one Jesus Christ.

You do know that no REAL historian would dare claim that Jesus, the “founder” of Christianity (because His full name is Jesus Christ) because there are many non-Biblical reports of the life and death of Jesus in ancient documents of his era and of times within years of His resurrection.

If Jesus Christ indisputably lived and died - just as the Bible reports He did - claimed to be God - which He did many times and in many ways —— then He was either a LIAR, A MENTALLy ILL man, or He WAS and IS the SON of God, just as He claimed.

He cannot be anything else.

Are you saying Jesus was a Liar or a Lunatic, which is it?

ohhhh - thread drift- want to go over to a chat thread?


174 posted on 03/14/2008 8:58:21 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I’m saying there’s zero discernable evidence there’s anything controlling natural disasters other than physical processes that are largely understood in the broad sense, and largely random back luck in the specifics.

Given damaged areas and buildings of a certain nature (Muslim countries, disliked organizations, left-leaning cities) people seem to be rather quick in gloating speculation about the will of God, etc. (Has been seen multiple times over the years in multiple situations.)

When it isn’t one of the above, people are notably silent.

The simple reality is the earth has had earthquakes for billions of years, tornadoes for billions of years, and will continue to have them, and the quakes will mostly be on pre-existing fault lines that have been around for millions of years, and the tornadoes will occur in regions where you get strong high-latitude cyclones with input of warm moisture. This has all happened before there were any humans. Said humans have built cities in these locations, and the quakes and tornadoes will keep happening, and it will not matter jack squat whether the residents of those areas are atheists, Christians, Muslims, or Hare Krishnas, or whether they ban or legalize abortions, etc.


190 posted on 03/14/2008 9:06:50 PM PDT by Strategerist
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