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Clinton Campaign (Penn)-Obama "Can't Win a General Election"-(With AUDIO, And Denial!)
ABC NEWS ^ | 13 March 2008 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 03/13/2008 2:06:48 PM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: Hoffer Rand
Sad. Isn't it?
21 posted on 03/13/2008 2:48:45 PM PDT by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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To: tcrlaf

22 posted on 03/13/2008 2:53:36 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Hoffer Rand
Penn is pretty conservative, although more libertarian, if I read him correctly.

I agree fully. I watched one of their (Penn & Teller) shows on HBO and I was getting ready to bail out with the remote, when Penn Jillette started talking sense and seemed to be on a course of debunking liberalism.

The guy is good at making his point and if I were a liberal I would never want to debate him.


23 posted on 03/13/2008 2:55:57 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: USS Alaska
You are talking about fat, corruption and evile.* I was thinking about morals, decency, substance and ability.

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*evile is that combination of sinister, evil and vile traits which is so common among lieberals, another combination word I invented to distinguish the worthy liberalism of Jefferson's day to the lies posing as the liberalism of today.

24 posted on 03/13/2008 2:56:45 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: tcrlaf

If Hillary can’t get away with attacking Obama as a racist, I don’t know if that jackass McCain can do it.

But if you want to know where Obama comes from, listen to this really atrocious extract from a sermon by his pastor, Jeremiah Wright:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Wright_on_film.html


25 posted on 03/13/2008 2:57:14 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: tcrlaf

Has anyone done a state by state comparison of those states Hillary and Obama have won? It appears that Hillary is going for those states that tally the highest number of electoral votes in the general election.

I believe they have their cheating apparatus in place in those states and are just testing them using the Democratic nomination process. Barack has no chance as far as I’m concerned because the infrastructure is already set up.

They can’t get rid of the electoral college but they will sure cheat to garner those states that offer the most electoral votes i.e. California...Ohio...Texas...Pennsylvania...and can you say...Florida??


26 posted on 03/13/2008 2:58:43 PM PDT by dba.adabas
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To: tcrlaf

So Hillary whos in second place in an electoral primary, is the stronger candidate in an electoral election?? how clintonesque.


27 posted on 03/13/2008 3:01:20 PM PDT by omega4179 (b.Hussein)
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To: tcrlaf

28 posted on 03/13/2008 3:03:23 PM PDT by omega4179 (b.Hussein)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Osama Hussein on the other hand is an outsider who owes nobody anything and is free to do whatever he wants with little repercussions

Osama Hussein on the other hand is an outsider who owes nobody anything and therefore will get absolutely no backing from anyone in power and will have to endlessly give ground and placate everyone in power.

They owe him nothing, and nothing is what such a person gets in DC today.


29 posted on 03/13/2008 3:09:47 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: isrul
Sad, isn't it?

It scares me. With all the "change" and "believe" messages and the messianic treatment. Then, Michelle talking about how they're going to force change on the country. Change for the sake of change is just so much motion. What nobody will make him answer is, change to WHAT?

30 posted on 03/13/2008 3:09:49 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand
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To: mdittmar
We're gonna need more than just popcorn to watch this unfold. Where are the twizzlers and whoppers! What a major mess the Democrats have created for themeselves! This is just too good to be true.
31 posted on 03/13/2008 3:11:18 PM PDT by Doctor Freeze
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To: USS Alaska

How about ‘stuffed pantsuit’ vs. ‘stuffed shirt’ ?


32 posted on 03/13/2008 3:24:22 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: capt. norm

I call BS!


33 posted on 03/13/2008 4:00:21 PM PDT by SmithL (That's my story & I'm sticking to it!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

“As much as I despise Hillary and want her to disappear Obama cannot get the nod. He is flat dangerous.”

Wake up. No one over 50 years old and white is going to vote for Obama. Obama will get the Black vote and the kids who actually will vote. That’s it.

The radical left are racists and seniors are afraid. Obama is the easy one to beat. If you thought the primaries were funny, Hillary in the general will be hilarious.


34 posted on 03/13/2008 4:23:33 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Shouldn't the libs love a Hunter Thompson ticket in 08?)
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To: tcrlaf
Doncha just love the DEMOCRAT CIVIL WAR (Day 80), with it's not-bigotry bigotry, and not-Racist Racism?

Had to smile when I read this. The top two headlines on Fox.com are:

l)Clinton Apologizes to Black Voters for Racial Comments:(about Jesse Jackson also winning South Carolina when he ran for president in 1984 and 1988, a comment many viewed as belittling Obama’s success.)and...

2)Obama's Pastor: Hillary Was Never Called a N*****

BWAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAA!

35 posted on 03/13/2008 4:47:24 PM PDT by luvie (Friendship is neither a contest nor a race. What matters is the feeling involved \:D/)
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To: tcrlaf; Jim Robinson; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, can't win the general election.

When Hillary gets the nomination, Denver is a given. Can we start a pool on which other cities will riot during the August 25-28 RAT convention? Please?


36 posted on 03/13/2008 4:47:29 PM PDT by Libloather (March is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Squantos

In election 2008, don’t forget Angry White Man

There is a great amount of interest in this year’s presidential elections, as everybody seems to recognize that our next president has to be a lot better than George Bush. The Democrats are riding high with two groundbreaking candidates — a woman and an African-American — while the conservative Republicans are in a quandary about their party’s nod to a quasi-liberal maverick, John McCain.

Each candidate is carefully pandering to a smorgasbord of special-interest groups, ranging from gay, lesbian and transgender people to children of illegal immigrants to working mothers to evangelical Christians.

There is one group no one has recognized, and it is the group that will decide the election: the Angry White Man. The Angry White Man comes from all economic backgrounds, from dirt-poor to filthy rich. He represents all geographic areas in America, from urban sophisticate to rural redneck, deep South to mountain West, left Coast to Eastern Seaboard.

His common traits are that he isn’t looking for anything from anyone — just the promise to be able to make his own way on a level playing field. In many cases, he is an independent businessman and employs several people. He pays more than his share of taxes and works hard.

The victimhood syndrome buzzwords — “disenfranchised,” “marginalized” and “voiceless” — don’t resonate with him. “Press ‘one’ for English” is a curse-word to him. He’s used to picking up the tab, whether it’s the company Christmas party, three sets of braces, three college educations or a beautiful wedding.

He believes the Constitution is to be interpreted literally, not as a “living document” open to the whims and vagaries of a panel of judges who have never worked an honest day in their lives.

The Angry White Man owns firearms, and he’s willing to pick up a gun to defend his home and his country. He is willing to lay down his life to defend the freedom and safety of others, and the thought of killing someone who needs killing really doesn’t bother him.

The Angry White Man is not a metrosexual, a homosexual or a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina — he got his people together and got the hell out, then went back in to rescue those too helpless and stupid to help themselves, often as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter.

His last name and religion don’t matter. His background might be Italian, English, Polish, German, Slavic, Irish, or Russian, and he might have Cherokee, Mexican, or Puerto Rican mixed in, but he considers himself a white American.

He’s a man’s man, the kind of guy who likes to play poker, watch football, hunt white-tailed deer, call turkeys, play golf, spend a few bucks at a strip club once in a blue moon, change his own oil and build things. He coaches baseball, soccer and football teams and doesn’t ask for a penny. He’s the kind of guy who can put an addition on his house with a couple of friends, drill an oil well, weld a new bumper for his truck, design a factory and publish books. He can fill a train with 100,000 tons of coal and get it to the power plant on time so that you keep the lights on and never know what it took to flip that light switch.

Women either love him or hate him, but they know he’s a man, not a dishrag. If they’re looking for someone to walk all over, they’ve got the wrong guy. He stands up straight, opens doors for women and says “Yes, sir” and “No, ma’am.”

He might be a Republican and he might be a Democrat; he might be a Libertarian or a Green. He knows that his wife is more emotional than rational, and he guides the family in a rational manner.

He’s not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed when people of certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes of their race. He’s willing to give everybody a fair chance if they work hard, play by the rules and learn English.

Most important, the Angry White Man is pissed off. When his job site becomes flooded with illegal workers who don’t pay taxes and his wages drop like a stone, he gets righteously angry. When his job gets shipped overseas, and he has to speak to some incomprehensible idiot in India for tech support, he simmers. When Al Sharpton comes on TV, leading some rally for reparations for slavery or some such nonsense, he bites his tongue and he remembers. When a child gets charged with carrying a concealed weapon for mistakenly bringing a penknife to school, he takes note of who the local idiots are in education and law enforcement.

He also votes, and the Angry White Man loathes Hillary Clinton. Her voice reminds him of a shovel scraping a rock. He recoils at the mere sight of her on television. Her very image disgusts him, and he cannot fathom why anyone would want her as their leader. It’s not that she is a woman. It’s that she is who she is. It’s the liberal victim groups she panders to, the “poor me” attitude that she represents, her inability to give a straight answer to an honest question, his tax dollars that she wants to give to people who refuse to do anything for themselves.

There are many millions of Angry White Men. Four million Angry White Men are members of the National Rifle Association, and all of them will vote against Hillary Clinton, just as the great majority of them voted for George Bush.

He hopes that she will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2008, and he will make sure that she gets beaten like a drum.

-- Gary Hubbell

37 posted on 03/13/2008 5:23:30 PM PDT by glock rocks ( afterism (n) - the concise, clever statement you think of right after hitting the 'post' button)
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To: tcrlaf

I passed by Howard Dean in Midtown tonight...to my surprise he was sporting a flag pin on his lapel (and he’s rather short).


38 posted on 03/13/2008 5:36:17 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Libloather
When Hillary gets the nomination, Denver is a given. Can we start a pool on which other cities will riot during the August 25-28 RAT convention? Please?

Man, The Clinton campaign has a really big brass pair.

Here's a few cities we could probably list:

Los Angeles, Birmingham, Selma, Harlem, Biloxi, Gulfport, New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Chicago.

And the list grows by the day.

39 posted on 03/13/2008 6:12:45 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: tcrlaf
Doncha just love the DEMOCRAT CIVIL WAR

Sometimes I wish this was the time of the Civil War, and we could do as they used to then when people had such disagreements and just give these two candidates pistols and they could shoot it out. They would probably kill each other, and the Democrat party would be left with no good, worthwhile candidate. Obviously that would be the case, since the Dems have offered Hillary and Obama, who they consider the best there is of their party. Doesn't that say enough to the Democrat voters?

40 posted on 03/13/2008 6:16:10 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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