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To: maine-iac7

>>”Blood of the saints”? “blood of the martyrs of Jesus”?<<

Abortion is a starter. But more importantly, Babylon is really more of a symbol. And we don’t always know what kinds of deals our country has made with other countries, like the fact that many countries get their power trading with us (like China) and in spite of bad stuff going on there (again, like China - or Iran or many others) we continue to trade with them and sometimes even give “most favored nation” status. It makes up complicent in and of their activity of which we are aware.

>>If you truly believe that America is the Mother of Harlots, the Great Whore, might I suggest you - get the he*l out.<<

Why do you think I specifically mentioned Revelation 18: 4,5?
“Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, so you will not take part in her sins and so you will not receive her plagues, because her sins have piled up all the way to heaven and God has remembered her crimes.”

With great power comes the ability to do both great good and great evil - and both carry consequences and responsibilities.

This nation is the most powerful nation EVER to exist on the face of the earth. It has done some great things. It also has blood on it’s hands. When one removes patriotism from their perspective and tries to view this nation and culture as it currently exists - from an historical and biblical perspective - there are, for lack of a better word, warts.


56 posted on 03/13/2008 8:27:26 AM PDT by RobRoy (I'm confused. I mean, I THINK I am, but I'm not sure. But I could be wrong about that.)
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To: RobRoy
"When one removes patriotism from their perspective and tries to view this nation and culture as it currently exists - from an historical and biblical perspective - there are, for lack of a better word, warts."

Bears to be repeated. I love the principles and ideals that the country was founded upon. And for the most part, America has tried to live up to those ideals, but in recent times, America has fogotten just what made this country great in the first place. "America has forgotten its "first love." Remember what Toqeuville said about America's greatness.

83 posted on 03/13/2008 11:16:28 AM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Your results may vary. Void where prohibited.)
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To: RobRoy
You think America is the Whore of Babylon - I don't think Rev is referring to a country = else, how could Germany have escaped the title - how could Communist Russia have not been so designated?

I rather think it refers to a religion - one that has spent millenia spilling innocent blood = etc

America is NOT the Great Harlot...and if you are so convinced then you must be planning on doing what you quoted: Come out of her, my people, so you will not take part in her sins and so you will not receive her plagues, because her sins have piled up all the way to heaven and God has remembered her crimes.” Have you left yet or do you even live in America - Rhetorical - no need to answer - as I really don't care

And with that, I close my posts to you -

105 posted on 03/13/2008 2:33:43 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: RobRoy

We have the blood of native americans, Jews who tried to get into the US but were turned away by our anti-semitic president at the time, slavery, and probably a whole lot more. We need as a nation to repent for our sins. God will forgive us and heal our land when we do.


233 posted on 03/13/2008 9:34:51 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: RobRoy

Babylon, IMHO, is a sign of the culture of our times, just as old Babylon was rich and had many delicacies, trade with other nations, etc. It’s a mindset Americans have. We’ve gotten FAT with prosperity and we’ve become complacent and lazy. Even christians.


234 posted on 03/13/2008 9:36:20 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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