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To: RobRoy
"I don’t know if I would go as far as this preacher did, but I do believe that Revelation 17 and 18 may be talking about the US."

Well I guess if everything has been predicted and foretold then there must not be anything to the concept of free will.

Our destiny has been written no matter what we do. Lets party!

39 posted on 03/13/2008 7:36:51 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Democrats= Phony Americans)
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To: Wurlitzer

>>Well I guess if everything has been predicted and foretold then there must not be anything to the concept of free will.<<

Not really. If you COULD go back five years in time and therefore knew what would happen in the next five years, your experience did not nullify anybody’s free will.

I believe linear time travel, which is the condition in which we live our normal lives, is part of Gods creation. Since He also exists outside of it, He exists outside of time itelf. I think that is part of what He (and Jesus - God in the flesh) meant when He said “I AM”.

Knowing what someone is going to do does not eliminate their free will. In fact, effective negotiators use this in their favor all the time


40 posted on 03/13/2008 7:42:45 AM PDT by RobRoy (I'm confused. I mean, I THINK I am, but I'm not sure. But I could be wrong about that.)
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To: Wurlitzer

Yes, the future HAS been predicted, although there is not a definitive agreement upon the details and how they influence the West. However, the Scriptures tell us that we are to work for peace and “occupy until He comes.” We’re not instructed to blow it all off thinking that the Scriptures will be fullfilled (as far as the end times are concerned) immediately, but we are told to be aware of the signs of His coming and be Ready. No, sorry, we really shouldn’t “party” hearty. We should be ready to greet the King.


46 posted on 03/13/2008 8:00:07 AM PDT by Max7
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