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The Entrapment of Eliot Spitzer
The Wall Street Journal ^ | March 13, 2008 | Alan M. Dershowitz

Posted on 03/13/2008 3:32:58 AM PDT by Nony

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To: mylife

Alan Douche-a-bag. There fixed it.


41 posted on 03/13/2008 4:16:38 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
I bought a car two yearsago for $18K cash. I had to fill out a currency transaction form which was no problem.

See, I think something like that should raise huge, red flags for citizens everywhere. What business is it of the government if I want to "move" $18k cash in order to purchase something?

I'm sorry, but the protection of liberty is a bit more important to me than catching the occasional john or whatever.

42 posted on 03/13/2008 4:19:07 AM PDT by ksen (Don't steal. The government hates the competition. - sign on Ron Paul's desk)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
Ah... ha, you are far more knowledgeable than I on this subject.


" ... I bought a car two years ago for $18K cash. I had to fill out a currency transaction form which was no problem."


No problem ... other than you had to prove you were innocent, rather than the government proving you wre guilty.


JMHO


ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE

43 posted on 03/13/2008 4:20:00 AM PDT by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Caymans are out.

Well just damn.

I guess I better buy a new mattress and start stuffing it with cash. I may even get a better interest rate and I won't charge myself fees.

44 posted on 03/13/2008 4:20:22 AM PDT by ksen (Don't steal. The government hates the competition. - sign on Ron Paul's desk)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
The anti-money laundering laws are broad; they are designed to catch drug smugglers, and terrorists among others.

Yes, and Dershowitz's point is that the laws are too broad. I used to know an Assistant US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. He told me that on his first day on the job, the US Attorney called him into his office and told him to look out the window. Below was a park and dozens of people were walking around. The US Attorney told my friend, "You see everyone in that park? They have all committed a federal crime. Your job is to decide who to prosecute."

I'm pretty sure I don't want to sign on to that type of government...

45 posted on 03/13/2008 4:22:29 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: ksen

After the next turn of the screw, your cash will rapidly descend to worthless. Buy commodities, like food, materials, ammo. Stuff that you won’t be able to buy WTSHTF.

It’s coming.


46 posted on 03/13/2008 4:24:28 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (!)
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To: ksen

The laws are there to do exactly that and they have been for a very long time.

And I am perfectly comfortable with Law Enforcement looking at my financial transactions.

>I don’t believe it is right for the State to have the banks routinely monitor accounts as normal business practices and then report their findings back to the State.

I believe that it is *perfect* and, in fact, it just worked *perfectly* to find a(nother) criminal in high office.


47 posted on 03/13/2008 4:25:38 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Nony

Sorry, Alan. Spitzer was ALWAYS the bad guy. Imagine if this punk had ended up as President. Nobody in this country would’ve been safe.


48 posted on 03/13/2008 4:27:18 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~***Just say NO to the "O"***~~~)
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To: bill1952

Your full support of statism is duly noted.

You fit right in with the new and improved GOP.


49 posted on 03/13/2008 4:29:13 AM PDT by ksen (Don't steal. The government hates the competition. - sign on Ron Paul's desk)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Imagine if this punk had ended up as President. Nobody in this country would’ve been safe.

Please, the guy screwed prostitutes. To say nobody would be safe with him as president because of that is just ridiculous.

If you wanted to base your claim on Spitzer being a globalist and a statist then I'd support your claim 100%.

50 posted on 03/13/2008 4:32:05 AM PDT by ksen (Don't steal. The government hates the competition. - sign on Ron Paul's desk)
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To: FreedomPoster

That particular quote is one of my favorites from AS, and you’re exactly right!

That’s the reason that I get shivers any time new laws are passed to “fix” a problem. Too often, they’re instruments of political control. Most egregious are the “hate” crime statutes. I’m for criminalizing the act of assault, vandalism, etc. but when they try to criminalize thought or perceived thought, beware of your liberty!


51 posted on 03/13/2008 4:33:45 AM PDT by Galt2010
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To: bill1952
I believe that it is *perfect* and, in fact, it just worked *perfectly* to find a(nother) criminal in high office.

Let me know how you like them laws when they are used to bring down a politician you like. And be sure that there are prosecutors feverishly looking to use them against conservatives even as we speak so the Spitzer doesn't get all the bad press to himself.

52 posted on 03/13/2008 4:33:49 AM PDT by ksen (Don't steal. The government hates the competition. - sign on Ron Paul's desk)
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To: Nony
When Eliot Spitzer was crushing people with far less I didn't see Alan Dershowitz writing about how the laws he used were bad or that it was an abuse of power - which is was.

And there it is in a nutshell.

Alan you're a hypocrite. Your boy got caught and is going down. Get over it.

53 posted on 03/13/2008 4:34:53 AM PDT by DB
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To: ksen

Oh Good Grief...Spitzer is a lawyer and had prosecuted prostitution rings..He knew better. Like it ot not..there are laws against his money transactions and what he did is illegal..AlanD is a friend of this hypocrit..The steamrolling crime buster got busted.


54 posted on 03/13/2008 4:36:23 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military)
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To: ksen

Prostitutes were the least of his problems. The man thought of himself as a dictator, unaccountable to anyone. He enjoyed destroying people for sport. I hope he does spend a good stretch in prison. He deserves it.


55 posted on 03/13/2008 4:37:33 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~***Just say NO to the "O"***~~~)
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To: G.Mason

But where’s the entrapment?


56 posted on 03/13/2008 4:37:38 AM PDT by DB
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To: from occupied ga

I can think of worse cancers. Pancreatic, lung and kidney come to mind.


57 posted on 03/13/2008 4:38:20 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Nothing can be made totally foolproof because fools are so darned ingenious.)
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To: Nony

If Dershowitz wants to become a “legalize prostitution” campaigner, fine, that’s his prerogative.

But the fact of the matter is that it is illegal, Spitzer knew this, and took steps to try to cover up his involvement, and furthermore, must have known that he was dealing with an international prostitution ring (something that is bound to have organized crime connections). Sorry, the law is the way it is, and Spitzer had to be fully aware of this but was simply so arrogant he thought it didn’t apply to him.

I still have this crazy theory that Spitzer believes that by hanging on till Monday, he won’t have to resign; Dershowitz is basically starting up this “it’s just sex” campaign to get him off the hook.


58 posted on 03/13/2008 4:43:10 AM PDT by livius
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To: ksen
That's a disgusting thing to wish on anyone

The English language doesn't have words to express how unimportant your opinion is to me, but in the hopes of educating a sanctimonious hand wringer (that would be you) I'll explain my logic. There are evil people in the world - people who would snuff you and your family out without the slightest hesitation or remorse if it gave them the slightest advantage. Spitzer has repeatedly shown himself to be one of those people As an obvious enemy of freedom - one of those tyrants about whom Thomas Jefferson said "the tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots" no fate is too bad for him.

Now as to the points you raised about his family. First, his wife was right there reaping the fruits of his shakedown of Wall street and his unprincipled destruction of Martha Stewart just for publicity. Spitzer's wife was enjoying and living the good life on the backs of those Spitzer oppressed so she shouldn't get any special consideration. Were you so concerned for the family of Martha Stewart I wonder?

Second as for his children: Look at Nancy Pelosi as a fine example of what the children of crooked politician grow up to be. Her father Tommy D'Alasandro was one of the most corrupt politician in Baltimore City, a city know for its corruption. Pelosi has lived a life of privilege on the backs of the taxpayers her entire life - just like Spitzer's children. Not too much sympathey from me for them. You want to have sympathy for children? Have some for the stockholder of PayPal that Spitzer shook down and cahused problems for just to extory money from.

Spitzer and his ilk are more of the enemies of freedom that any number of Al Qaeda terrorists, and you sanctimonoius hand wringers better learn that or you can kiss the last of your little remaining freedom goodby

59 posted on 03/13/2008 4:48:19 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: CholeraJoe

I was thinking of his trans fat war.


60 posted on 03/13/2008 4:49:02 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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