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Canada warns US over oil sands
The Times ^ | 3/9/2008 | Sheila McNulty in Houston

Posted on 03/12/2008 11:15:38 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Canada has warned the US government that a narrow interpretation of new energy legislation would prohibit its neighbour buying fuel from Alberta’s vast oil sands, with “unintended consequences for both countries”.

In a letter to Robert Gates, US defence secretary, Canada said that it “would not want to see an expansive interpretation” of the Energy Independence and Security Act 2007. A copy of the letter, from Michael Wilson, Canadian ambassador, and copied to Condoleezza Rice, US secretary of state, and Samuel Bodman, US energy secretary, has been obtained by the Financial Times.

Section 526 of the law limits US government procurement of alternative fuels to those from which the lifecycle greenhouse gas emissions are equal to or less than those from conventional fuel from conventional petroleum sources. Canada’s oil sands are considered unconventional fuels, and producing them emits more greenhouse gas than conventional production.

The Bush administration has, nonetheless, encouraged developing oil sands, given the US’s favourable relationship with Canada and that it would reduce reliance on Middle East imports.

Amy Myers Jaffe, energy expert at Rice University, said cutting out the oil sands as a source of fuel would also limit global supplies further, forcing up the price of oil: “$106 a barrel is going to look cheap.”

The three presidential candidates hoping to replace President George W. Bush are proponents of strong US policy to counter greenhouse gas emissions, which could lead to a narrow interpretation of the law. That could be why Canada wants the law interpreted now.

“The Canadians do, in fact, have something to worry about, particularly from a Democratic administration,” Ms Jaffe said.

Environmentalists say extracting a barrel of crude from oil sands results in five times the amount of greenhouse gas emissions than extracting conventional crude – a figure some energy companies dispute.

Tristan Landry, spokesperson at the Canadian embassy in Washington, said: “Classifying fuel from the oil sands as non-conventional fuel ... would unnecessarily complicate the integrated Canada-US energy relationship.”

The energy department said the US was “assessing any implication to the US federal fuel procurement practices arising from the bill and will work co-operatively with Canada”.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; eisa; eisa2007; energy; oil; oilsands
Whoa, Canucks. Hussein Osama said he was just kidding about renegotiating trade deals.

Greenhouse McCain/Lieberman might be another thing.

1 posted on 03/12/2008 11:15:39 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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bruinbirdman, you thinking McCain would actually pick Loserman for VP?

I wouldn't put it past "moderate Juan".

Regards

2 posted on 03/12/2008 11:23:23 PM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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Why do I get this gnawing feeling in my gut that our U.S. government politicians will somehow someway screw up our supply of crude?

These environmentalist are bad news.

Already in the very liberal part of California where I live liberals are starting to say prices of gas and all other things are getting out of hand.

3 posted on 03/12/2008 11:33:48 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: ARE SOLE
". . . McCain would actually pick Loserman for VP?"

McGreen has teamed up with Alfred E. Lieberman on new greenie legislation. No Liebfraumilch on the ticket.

yitbos

4 posted on 03/12/2008 11:43:26 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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". . . McCain would actually pick Loserman for VP?"

McGreen has teamed up with Alfred E. Lieberman on new greenie legislation. No Liebfraumilch on the ticket.

yitbos

5 posted on 03/12/2008 11:44:24 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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“No Liebfraumilch”

Hey! What do you have against my favorite German wine from the Rhine Valley?


6 posted on 03/13/2008 12:08:15 AM PDT by neb52 (I am sorry I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am. - Captain Kirk)
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Canada warning us about oil production is as empty as Chavez’s threats to cut it from us...

The other party needs our $$$ more than we need their oil. Besides, this is Canada we’re talking about LOL.


7 posted on 03/13/2008 12:57:48 AM PDT by max americana
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Canada warning us about oil production is as empty as Chavez’s threats to cut it from us...

I read the whole article and did not see where Canada was threatening to withhold or cut their oil supply to the US. What I did see is a concern that a section of the energy bill could/would prevent the US from purchasing oil sand oil from Canada. I can't blame them for being concerned. I am quite concerned about what the next administration will do in the area of energy and environmental issues.

George W. Bush doesn't get much credit on this board...but we should be thankful that he has managed to do almost nothing about 'global warming'. Something tells me that we will miss that when his term is up.
8 posted on 03/13/2008 1:28:49 AM PDT by goldfinch
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“Section 526 of the law limits US government procurement of alternative fuels to those from which the lifecycle greenhouse gas emissions are equal to or less than those from conventional fuel from conventional petroleum sources.”

I think this would apply to ethanol as well. It certainly requires more energy to make than it yields. If all that energy required for production comes from hydrocarbon sources it would definatly violate section 526.


9 posted on 03/13/2008 1:48:29 AM PDT by nicepaco
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l”George W. Bush doesn’t get much credit on this board...but we should be thankful that he has managed to do almost nothing about ‘global warming’. Something tells me that we will miss that when his term is up.”

BINGO!

We’ll be crying about ‘the good old days’!


10 posted on 03/13/2008 3:22:11 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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The US should warn Canada that we secure North America not them. They could’nt oppose us anyhow is we were like russia or china. They should be thankful that we are such a benign superpower and have guarded their sorry ass for decades and that wont be stopping anytime soon. They cant even patrol their own territory against russian incursion and have pathetic naval and air force hardware.


11 posted on 03/13/2008 3:48:14 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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The other party needs our $$$ more than we need their oil. Besides, this is Canada we’re talking about LOL.

You're "LOL"ing Canada over a legitimite concern? Show some bloody respect.

12 posted on 03/13/2008 4:09:22 AM PDT by period end of story
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>>You’re “LOL”ing Canada over a legitimite concern? Show some bloody respect.<<

Hey buddy, here’s a shocker from you...I’m originally from BC, born and bred, moved to Hollywood 2 years ago after helping Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party win the elections, so if there’s someone here on FR who’s got a legitimate shot at showing “respect” for Soviet Canuckistan, it’s your truly.


13 posted on 03/13/2008 9:23:46 AM PDT by max americana
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I don't care if you're from Antwerp. But you should know that ambassador M. Wilson is not the type to bring up ANY frivolous BS.

Soviet Canuckistan

Heh, they must love you in Hollywood. Ever bump into Paul Haggis?

14 posted on 03/14/2008 5:07:05 AM PDT by period end of story
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>>Ever bump into Paul Haggis?<<

Actually, I did. But here’s something a story a closet Republican told me weeks ago...

Haggis, just like a typical liberal loon, promotes “multicultralism” and “race understanding” with his film CRASH BUT when a buddy of his who ‘s a struggling actor asked him one time: ‘where do yo live, Paul?”

Haggis “in Beverly Hills”
buddy: “why won’t you move to Compton or East L.A....say Montebello?”
Haggis:”and why would I move there?”
Buddy:”well, Beverly Hills is full of white people right? Don;t tell me that you don’t practice what you preach..”
Haggis: “f*** you...”

That was a story that made the rounds a year ago.


15 posted on 03/14/2008 7:54:24 PM PDT by max americana
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