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To: angcat
suffer and starve myself and exercise but I do it for me.

My intention is not to embarrass you...truly...but that comment is so revealing and it is typical of the mindset of women these days. Why wouldn't you do it for your husband? Why wouldn't you starve and exercise for you AND your husband? I keep myself nice for me and my husband...sometimes I do it JUST for my husband. And that's the point. Women expect men to do everything for them, and then push their feelings off as trivial. It's one of the reasons we are where we are.

Men are simple creatures...if women got that, there would be alot more happy couples.

271 posted on 03/12/2008 11:22:12 AM PDT by Hildy (You know you're in love when you can't fall asleep cause reality is finally better than your dreams)
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To: Hildy

Apparently your way of thinking is now considered “self-loathing” by most American women.


272 posted on 03/12/2008 11:24:01 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Hildy
My hubby does not demand a certain weight from me. He gives me unconditional love. I am the one that can't stand being anything but a certain size.
278 posted on 03/12/2008 12:03:34 PM PDT by angcat (Indian name "She who yells too much")
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To: Hildy

A bit of insight-—
For the last 10 years, every woman who has come to take belly dance ‘for her husband’ has been someone almost zero self esteem trying to win their husband’s approval. Mice in women’s bodies.

Do they last long in class? No, usually no more than 1 or 2 classes max, because they are there for all the wrong reasons so the lessons don’t take. And it’s such a long road before they even remotely look like they’re dancing, hubby gets miffed and frustrated and I get feedback like “when am I going to be able to dance for him”.

I don’t know, how soon do you think you’d be able to dance Swan Lake after lessons with the ABT??

The women who stay, do well, become beautiful dancers that their hubby’s are proud of?

They all do it for themselves-— I have yet to have a good student that came for any other reason.

Even with weight loss ed-— You have to do it for yourself-— I can count on almost certain failure if its for any reason other than for self-improvement or health issues. Even then, the goals have to be realistic....No, you probably won’t be a size 8, however, you’ll be a very happy and healthy size 14.... If hubby still thinks that’s too large? Then the problem is in his head, not your body.

Weight loss, dancing, etc....It has to be something you want for you....that benefits your health and well being.

In my experience, men don’t like doormats or those who have no worth and no idenity. That is what the ‘Dance and Lose Weight for Hubby’ crowd are....


287 posted on 03/12/2008 12:19:35 PM PDT by najida (Your advice is like offering a Twinkie to Julia Childs.)
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To: Hildy
Why wouldn't you do it for your husband? Why wouldn't you starve and exercise for you AND your husband? I keep myself nice for me and my husband...sometimes I do it JUST for my husband...

When you do something that requires such a personal commitment and sacrifice for somebody else (your spouse, your child, your parent) you are setting that person up for a boatload of resentment when they don't meet your expectations now or at some point later. I lost 40 pounds for you...but you can't (fill in blank) for me. I worked two jobs for your education, but all I get back from you is (fill in blank). God bless you that it works in your relationship, but when people (ok, women...I am thinking of my circle of friends) do 'things' just for the favor of the husband, a, they resent 'doing' it in the long run. If you want to change your life, your looks, your spirit you have have to want to do it for yourself only...and answer only to yourself.

299 posted on 03/12/2008 1:12:24 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Yoi. And double yoi.)
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To: Hildy

“Men are simple creatures...if women got that, there would be alot more happy couples.”

Gee, you’re no so bad after all. I need to hook you up with my wife. : )


308 posted on 03/12/2008 2:06:47 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Hildy
Men are simple creatures...if women got that, there would be alot more happy couples.

Like the one quote from a man in Dr. Laura's The Proper Care and Feeding on Husbands, "If I'm not horny, make me a sandwich." I would add, that I can make my own sandwich. Mens needs are simple, admiration, affection/sex, and a bit of food; and a decent man will do anything for his wife.

Of course this does not apply if the guy is an abuser, adulterer, or addicted.

333 posted on 03/12/2008 3:30:15 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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