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I'm in IT, and I know plenty of "code slingers". Even more people that are "computer techs", but understand little more than how to run the OS.

I blame the job market, and the testing environment propagated by Microsoft, Cisco, et al. Without sounding TOO much like an old codger, I can remember when you had to understand how a computer worked to program it, and even more so to repair them.

Now, Microsoft is spitting out Engineers by the thousand. Some are sharp, sure, but many just have a good understanding of how to take tests. I interviewed one "instant Engineer" that went to a boot camp to get his Certification. Fine and Dandy - but when I started quizzing him about computers it was obvious that he would have a hard time recognizing one. Furthermore, I asked him about the internet - he was "Familiar with it, but hadn't been on it yet."

Thus, everyone posting here at FR is more qualified than this putz. He DOES have the all-powerful Microsoft cert though, and will be able to use it to bluff his way past some uninformed HR person.

Anyhoo - the point to my rant, if there is one, is that while equality-at-any-cost feminists are certainly doing their part to destroy science, industry isn't helping any.

Finally, if I may be so bold, in looking at the average business - observe closely who's doing what. For now at least, if you look at any company, there aren't too many equality-at-any-cost feminists at the sharp end of the stick. They're all in nice safe places like HR, Marketing, and Corporate Training - where they can't do too much damage, and where the execs can point at them and say "See How Diverse We Are!!".

When things go south (tech stuff, sales, etc) execs just want the problem fixed and don't CARE about the touchy-feely stuff. I don't think that I've ever met a C-level exec who said "Wow! Our Sales are down, but isn't it great that our sales force is Muticultural!!!". Nope - they just do what it takes to keep the revenue coming in, and don't care if the people are male or female, black, white or green.

Finally, if I may be so bold, in looking at the average business - observe closely who's doing what. For now at least, if you look at any company, there aren't too many equality-at-any-cost feminists at the sharp end of the stick. They're all in nice safe places like HR, Marketing, and Corporate Training - where they can't do too much damage, and where the execs can point at them and say "See How Diverse We Are!!".

I think you also pointed out a couple of other problems in the system, and maybe those places aren't as safe as they think?

I hear you:

I like to ask potential programmers to give me a real world example of inheritance...

I also like to ask for a practical example of Multiple inheritance, the answers can be very funny, as well as informative of their real "understanding" of the subject.

Who says interviewing can't be fun, then there's the whiteborad sized true false question with hundreds of parenthesis that ends with ") and False".

I got more, and if you can answer the questions correctly, I don't care what color you are, you're hired.