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Speeder Tasered by trooper on YouTube video gets $40,000 from state
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | March 11, 2008 | Jason Bergreen

Posted on 03/11/2008 8:05:26 AM PDT by abb

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To: Michael.SF.

What a bunch of crap. That cop was pissed off and a freaking coward. He was going to arrest the guy for not signing a ticket. He was a power hungry asshole who should be thrown in jail for assault and fired.


101 posted on 03/11/2008 11:08:27 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: abb

Too bad this cop wasn’t fired. I’m sure the cop was trained about folks being pretty ticked off when they get a speeding ticket and how to best handle the situation. I doubt arresting someone is part of the plan. I’d hate to see how the cop handles himself in a dangerous situation. He lost complete control and should not be in a position of authority especially when snap judgments could mean life or death.


102 posted on 03/11/2008 11:08:37 AM PDT by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: farmer18th
He had the bearing of a latent homosexual or someone with a deep rooted inferiority complex, sort of like Elliot Spritzer.

OMG LOL!!!

103 posted on 03/11/2008 11:10:44 AM PDT by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: normy

You remind me of the type of guy that lawyers love to have on a jury.


104 posted on 03/11/2008 11:12:39 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Michael.SF.
Great example to his kids as well.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. The really poor example to the man's children was the "peace" officer. We don't need Barney Fifes on steroids. We need civil "servants." The guy in the S.U.V was no threat to anyone.
105 posted on 03/11/2008 11:13:10 AM PDT by farmer18th (The McCain Presidential Library Will Be Located in Tijuana - Under NAU Administration)
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To: Michael.SF.
No link, opinion only...firmly based on what I watched (and I saw it all).

I plead guilty to stereotyping the driver the way many here have the trooper.

My guess is Daddy bought him his SUV and his kid is the starting pitcher on the Little League team...or there'll be hell to pay.

106 posted on 03/11/2008 11:18:12 AM PDT by daler
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To: Michael.SF.
I don't do jury's because I don't trust lawyers for either side. I just tell the lawyer 'there's no way I am convicting this guy' and its done.

You sound like the kinda guy who backs dirty cops and approves of abusive action by authority because they were not properly respected as they think they should be.

From the video it seemed clear they were on a major highway where speed limits tend to be 60 miles an hour. It also appears there were temporary signs up stating the MPH was now 40. The young driver and his pregnant wife obviously didn't see those 3 foot speed limit signs and the guy said he wasn't going to sign the ticket until he was shown the temporary sign.

the cop should have told the kid that signing the ticket didn't mean it was an admission of guilt, just that he had been issued one. If he would sign it then he could follow the cop back around to the previous sign and see for himself.

The cop was obviously pissed his authority was questioned. If he was going to arrest the vicious thug he should said so.

I will look for you another great thread here on FR where a NO cop takes young brazen handcuffed drunk lady into a room and leaves her in a pool of her own blood for making him angry and not respecting him enough. You will love that one. She really got what she had coming to her.

107 posted on 03/11/2008 11:22:43 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Michael.SF.
I'd go with "confused ignorance". But I did seriously get the impression by the look in his eyes (for a brief second after the officer pulled the taser) that the kid saw a flash of dollar signs just before he was zapped. There was a quick shift in his demeanor when he realized the officer was pointing a taser gun at him. It wasn't fear. If I could read his mind, he would be saying to himself, "Riight, you're not going to shoot me, but just in case you really do... right here, $hoot me right here." ;-)
108 posted on 03/11/2008 11:28:15 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: normy
I will look for you another great thread here on FR

Don't bother. You're not one that warrants further conversation.

109 posted on 03/11/2008 11:31:55 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Hatteras

LOL. probably true!


110 posted on 03/11/2008 11:32:38 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Michael.SF.
I don't want to talk about it, I just want you to get your jollys
111 posted on 03/11/2008 11:34:30 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: daler

$40,000.

who said you can’t get rich posting videos on YOUTUBE?


112 posted on 03/11/2008 11:49:24 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Michael.SF.

The officer could have easily handled the situation differently before it ever got to the point of tasing the man. That’s the point. Why don’t YOU try being intellectually honest about the situation BEFORE the tasing happened.


113 posted on 03/11/2008 12:45:54 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Centurion2000

The first taze was justified. The attitude and the second was not.


114 posted on 03/11/2008 1:05:55 PM PDT by RobRoy (I'm confused. I mean, I THINK I am, but I'm not sure. But I could be wrong about that.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Why don’t YOU try being intellectually honest about the situation BEFORE the tasing happened.

Save the snide comments for someone else, as I directed no anger or insulting comments at you.

Instead of taking a shot at me, accusing me of being dishonest, explain to me what the cop did that justified the guy's rude and uncooperative attitude?

I saw nothing from the cop that indicated improper behavior, prior to the tazing.

115 posted on 03/11/2008 1:06:01 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Michael.SF.

I wasn’t taking a shot at you, if I had, I wouldn’t have missed. You simply are not being honest. You are basing the tasing only on “after the fact”. Prior to, the cop “copped an attitude”. The cop was wrong. Period. And so are you if you believe he was “within the law”.

If he was right, why are they settling out of court again?


116 posted on 03/11/2008 1:38:24 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Wallace T.

a sudden drop from 65 to 40
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In Florida and most states that I’m familiar with there can be no more than a 15mph difference from one posted limit to the next on any road, if there was a 25mph difference the lower limit was invalid and is unenforceable..


117 posted on 03/11/2008 1:40:22 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: wideawake
most law enforcement agencies of any size are supervised by independent review agencies that do not report to anyone in law enforcement.

REALLY? Houston Sheriff office could use the it. Just last week they "settled" a 1.4 million lawsuit for violating the civil rights of two brothers. Two where videoing a neighbor drug bust from their own property and the cops came over ripped the camera right out of his hands while pulling the film out. The officers were promoted. The DA lost his job because of not investigating but during the deposition his emails revealed a Spitzer moment.

118 posted on 03/11/2008 1:59:37 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Rick.Donaldson
You are basing the tasing only on “after the fact”. -- That is your incorrect assumption. I watched the video, posted. Then watched it again. I saw nothing to cause me to change my mind.

Prior to, the cop “copped an attitude”. --So? The guy was admittedly doing 58 in 40 zone, probably a construction zone (temporary speed signs). The cop was 100% justified to pull him over and if he "copped" an attitude does that justify the other guys lack of cooperation?

And so are you if you believe he was “within the law”.Was the cop arrested and charged? No.

If he was right, why are they settling out of court again? See post 55 and others. asked and answered.

I note you did not answer the question, in that how should the cop have handled it differently. But from your comment, regarding the cops 'attitude', you seem to imply that he should have been more deferential to this guy. Do you really think that would have caused the guy to cooperate?

Maybe so, but I think not.

My basic problem with this incident and so many others like it, the problem seems to start when the civilian either argues, or does not listen to the cop. If people would cooperate and take their story to the judge they would have a far better chance of being successful and a far lower chance of some incident occurring.

119 posted on 03/11/2008 2:04:10 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Orange1998
TYPO

The DA did not lose his job because of not investigating but during the deposition his emails revealed a Spitzer moment.

120 posted on 03/11/2008 2:07:34 PM PDT by Orange1998
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