Posted on 03/10/2008 8:37:51 PM PDT by tobyhill
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oh YES there were briefings that linked Saddam to Al Qaeda... and the pointman on that intelligence was a Pentagon Democrat named Chris Carney. After 9/11 he was placed in charge of researching the relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda in the Policy Counterterrorism Evaluation Group.
The same Chris Carney who stands by the Saddam/Al Qaeda relationship when pushed and admits that “I know what I saw.”
Despite all that, in the midst of the Bush Lied canard, the Democrats ran Carney for Congress and MOVEON.org helped fund his campaign.
The man behind the research convincing Tenet and the White House of those ties was elected to Congress by the Democrats in 2006, funded by the “anti-war” crowd... how DARE they pretend “Bush Lied”.
A New House Democrat With an Insiders’ View of Iraq
RNC Mailing Accuses Pa. Democrat Of Helping To Start the War in Iraq
http://www.nysun.com/article/42019
What about links between Uday and AQ? The drive-by media are Clintonesque in their deception.
If I remember right, Saddam wanted 2 weeks from his military until he could launch his “secret war”. I think that took that much time for a whole BUNCH of al Qaeda to get in country and to stash huge cashes of ammo for them to use.
I think they depended on a few body bags would send our troop home packing as was the case in Somalia and Lebanon.
If a Democrat was in the White House, their theory would be correct. The troops would be sent home a long time ago and the terrorists would know just how hard to push to defeat our military. It did after all, work before.
The terrorists would know how well that worked and they can duplicate that each and every time they faced our military.
Shortly before the invasion, there was a lot of talk about Ansar-al-Islam and Zarqawi possessing RICIN.
Hmmmmm...is ricin a WMD or not? Does it depend on the definition of ‘is’?
‘direct operational link’
they are erroneously looking for a ‘smoking gun’ of a meeting where saddam, via interlocuters. engaged in command decisions with osama - as if saddam and osama were dumb enough to engage in their common interests - antipathy to the u.s. on the level of obsession - in such a direct manner and leaving a direct record as such - yea, right
one only need ask what level of co-operation with al queda was involved in an iraqi intelligence operative attending the last meeting of the 9/11 plotters in kuala lampur maylasia; an iraqi intelligence operative given his ‘job’ in maylasia - driver - by a ‘iraqi citizen’ living in maylasia; a job that finds him meeting one of the 9/11 plotters at the kuala lampur airport, driving him to the meeting, going into the meeting with him, returning him to the airport the same day and within days leaving maylasia for good himself, never to be located again by western intelligence
apparently, whatever cooperation was happening between saddam and al queda it was too sophisticated for our failed intelligence service to call it ‘direct’ or ‘operational’
http://www.meib.org/articles/0106_ir1.htm
Iraqi Complicity in the World Trade Center Bombing and Beyond
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1698239/posts
World Trade Center, 1993 Terrorist Attack (don't say it too loudly - Yousef had IRAQI passport)
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/iraq/956-tni.htm
THE WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMB:
Who is Ramzi Yousef? And Why It Matters
Hmmm, there seems to be enough Iraqi/WTC connections for me!
IAN SCHWARTZ has the video of Christopher Hitchens berating Ron Reagan on MSNBC.
here's a transcript of the heart of Hitchen's rant:Excuse me. When I went to interview Abu Nidal, then the most wanted terrorist in the world, in Baghdad, he was operating out of an Iraqi government office. He was an arm of the Iraqi State, while being the most wanted man in the world. The same is true of the shelter and safe house offered by the Iraqi government, to the murderers of Leon Klinghoffer, and to Mr. Yasin, who mixed the chemicals for the World Trade Center bombing in 1993. How can you know so little about this, and be occupying a chair at the time that you do?
Obviously, Ron doesn't want to hear things that might challenge his world view.
How could Hitch be so insensitive?
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/1602.html
http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312/
ABC News Report at link.
The report was similar to numerous accounts in the worldwide press following Operation Desert Fox. That Clinton-ordered air campaign lasted from December 16 to December 19, 1998. Its purpose was to degrade Saddam’s WMD and intelligence capabilities. Reports from more recent years indicate that the campaign nearly plunged Saddam’s regime into chaos. In any event, Saddam’s response was telling. Just two days after Operation Desert Fox ended he dispatched one of his top intelligence operatives, Faruq Hijazi, to Afghanistan to meet with bin Laden. As I and others have written, Hijazi was no low-level flunky. He was one of Saddam’s most trusted goons and was responsible for overseeing a good deal of the regime’s terrorist and other covert activities. It was this meeting that led to widespread reporting on the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda. I collected a bunch of these reports, including the ABC News report, in “The Four-Day War.” Another, earlier piece also discusses Saddam’s conspicuous response to Operation Desert Fox.
The consensus in the media then was that there was a relationship between the two and that Saddam’s regime was very willing to work with al Qaeda against their common foe: America. And vice versa. Indeed, the reporting indicated that they had been working together even long before Operation Desert Fox.
The reports from late 1998 and early 1999 are tough for naysayers to explain away for a variety of reasons, but that hasn’t stopped them from trying. For example, last year’s Senate Intelligence Report on Iraq’s ties to al Qaeda (the report was written, primarily, by a former John Kerry for President campaigner) unhesitatingly cited Hijazi’s testimony, in which he claimed that he did not meet with bin Laden again after a lone incident in the mid 1990’s. The Senate Intelligence report did not cite any of the voluminous reporting, by ABC News and other outlets, following the meeting in December 1998. Obviously, that reporting demonstrates Hijazi is a liar. I asked the Senate Intelligence Committee’s staff about this after the report came out. They said they didn’t have any evidence that contradicted Hijazi’s testimony and that is why they cited it unquestioningly. I think that is a good demonstration of the ignorance or bias or both that clouds this issue.
Of course, at the same time that the worldwide media was reporting all of this, various CIA and National Security Council officials were watching as well. Thus, Richard Clarke worried in February 1999 about bin Laden’s possible “boogie to Baghdad.” A month earlier he defended intelligence tying Saddam’s VX nerve gas program to a suspected al Qaeda front company in Sudan. Michael Scheuer also at one time found it convenient to cite some of this evidence. In his original 2002 edition of Through Our Enemies’ Eyes he approvingly cited several of the media’s late 1998/early 1999 accounts. Of course, they both now pretend none of this really means anything.
Such is the state of affairs in today’s Washington establishment.
The weasel word is “operational”. If you can’t show a direct written command, if you can’t show an organization chart showing boxes and lines connecting Bin Ladin and Saddam, then there is no direct “operational” connection.
I know this is difficult for some people to understand, but this is why its called “espionage”. They know Saddam’s spooks met with Bin Ladin’s people several times over the years, the final meeting between an Iraqi agent and the 911 attackers taking place right before the attack.
That Uday knew about 911 before it happened.
That Iraqis were key players in the first World Trade Center attack.
That Saddam launched an assassination attempt against Bush senior. That Saddam’s people met with Bin Ladin himself in Sudan, and in Afghanistan, that there are memos translated indicating that Bin Ladin had been invited to Baghdad, that Saddam was training foreign civilian terrorists, and that when we went into Afghanistan, Bin Ladin was offered refuge in Iraq. Zarqawi accepted the offer.
We know that Saddam had connections to Philippine terrorism, as did Bin Ladin.
To say that there is no connection is clearly wrong, so they raise the bar, challenging us to find an org chart. Sorry, it doesn’t work that way. Only CIA would be so lame as to produce an org chart and then leak it to the New York Times. Tradecraft is a little tighter in most services.
Oh, please. If even Shi’ah & Sunnah can get it together to commit some terrorist acts, surely it’s not a stretch for al-Qaeda to work with Ba’athists.
Thanks g!
wstrobel@mcclatchydc.com
Let this liar know the truth.
From this:
The new study of the Iraqi regime's archives found no documents indicating a "direct operational link" between Hussein's Iraq and al Qaida before the invasion, according to a U.S. official familiar with the report.
it appears they're trumping up some very careful wording.
To be fair, is it the MSM that did that or is it the Pentagon, whose study it was?
Thanks for the ping. Thanks for the thread. Thanks for comments. It’s all connected. Take a mental paradigm shift into their world...their enablers, their liars, our liars, our deniers. Read the Quran. Witness history. Witness current events. Read this thread. Know the truth.
Anonymous sources have no credibility.
Let us never forget that Iraq was busted red handed with the sanction busting al samoud 2 missile in early 2003.
Relationship between Saddam and bin Laden’s group was akin to the Cosa Nostra’s relationship with the Westies.
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