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Will Fed Try Something New to Aid Markets?
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10 March 2008 | DAVID WESSEL

Posted on 03/10/2008 6:15:48 PM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: milwguy

GS was drinking plenty of CDO koolaid, but in 2007 they went short on their own offerings. They were touting their rot long to the morons, while privately taking the opposite side.

Of course, GS is the ultimate nest of insider trading. For example, how better placed can you be, than to have your last CEO as US Sec Treasury?


61 posted on 03/10/2008 7:56:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: FastCoyote
Do you think lowering interest rates to cause the subprime debacle, then raising them, then lowering them to cure the subprime debacle, sounds like anything but lunacy?

The Fed creates problems by raising rates too high and then lowering them too low. They need to stop managing the economy with interest rates and incorrectly blaming the economy for inflation.

62 posted on 03/10/2008 7:59:20 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: shrinkermd

63 posted on 03/10/2008 8:03:15 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Travis McGee

You’ll enjoy reading this:

http://www.swans.com/library/art14/mdolin31.html

A Quick Look At The Credit Crisis

by Michael Doliner

“(Swans - March 10, 2008) By now most people know that the “subprime” crisis is no such thing. What has happened is the final result of the long decay of the rate of profit (1) in the American economy. As productive activity no longer paid, investors turned to interest on credit to provide sufficient rates of return....”


64 posted on 03/10/2008 9:02:06 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: Pelham

Nice clear must-read. Thanks for a spectacular article. Really cuts to the chase...

“These liabilities seem to be as large as the entire American banking system.”

“The American economy now depends upon all the players going along with good news they all know is bogus.”

“Since everyone’s exposure is hidden nobody knows who is holding these worthless securities and is thus essentially broke, so nobody wants to lend any money to anybody.”

“Credit card defaults and car loan defaults are rising almost as fast as mortgage defaults. To repay or not to repay is now seen as a purely business, rather than a moral, decision. This pulls out the supports from all the mathematical models upon which the system is based.”

“The really fun news is that this is only the tip of the iceberg.”

“Nobody knows which banks are already bankrupt, and now even the little guy is no longer finding his obligation to pay all that much of an obligation. In the end the whole credit system depends upon the social convention that debts ought to be repaid, and this social convention seems to be dissolving. When people begin walking away, lower interest rates are not going to help.”


65 posted on 03/10/2008 9:40:12 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Yes, it’s one of the clearest and most concise articles I’ve run across describing what is going on in the credit markets.

It reminds me of what termites can do to wooden framework. From a distance it all still looks just fine, until you stress it.


66 posted on 03/10/2008 10:05:09 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: Pelham
["As productive activity no longer paid, investors turned to interest on credit to provide sufficient rates of return....”]
 
 
Hmmm...
 
Page 73
The discovery by financial capitalists that they made money out of issuing and selling securities rather than out of production, distribution and consumption of goods accordingly led them to the point where they discovered that the exploiting of an operating company by excessive issuance of securities or the issuance of bonds rather than equity securities not only was profitable to them but made it possible for them to increase their profits by bankruptcy of the firm, providing fees and commission of reorganization as well as the opportunity to issue new securities.

Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time', by Carroll Quigley, 1966 ;


67 posted on 03/10/2008 10:38:08 PM PDT by Etoo (I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
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To: shrinkermd

“The Federal Reserve, along with other central banks around the globe, unveiled plans to lend an additional $200 billion as part of its lending program to ‘promote liquidity’ in financial markets.”

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/11/markets/stockswatch_ny/index.htm?postversion=2008031109


68 posted on 03/11/2008 6:15:55 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Moonman62
Utter nonsense. Blaming W for nasdaq not making new records is clinicially insane, it won't for fifty years.
69 posted on 03/11/2008 6:54:30 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
“These liabilities seem to be as large as the entire American banking system.”

OK, now I know I am surrounded by utter morons.

Assets equal liabilities, that is an accounting identity. Of course "these liabilities" are the size of the entire banking system, banking systems are giant piles of liabilities, by definition. Money is the liability of a bank.

70 posted on 03/11/2008 6:56:25 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC
As I said, it's not just the Nasdaq anymore, and what I said was in response to your claim that we've had a bull market. Maybe we did by some definition, but upon analysis it's not so great. Had W had anything good at all to say about the technology sector back when it was needed, I wouldn't put the blame on him, but instead he always talked about the amount of his new spending programs.

At the Waco Economic Forum, where the dividend tax cut was recommended, W refused to meet with the technology companies in attendance, so he sent Dick Cheney instead. Cheney refused to speak to them but offered to listen. W's willful neglect of technology was so bad that two well known Republican technology CEO's John Chambers and Meg Whitman turned to the Democrats for help.

So if you're going to call me insane, you better back it up. Otherwise, I'm going to continue to smack you down and drag you across the floor with the facts, and if you still continue I'm going to reach through my monitor and choke the sh*t out of you ;-)

71 posted on 03/11/2008 7:52:42 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: JasonC
[Money is the liability of a bank.]
 
"Thus, clearly, money and goods are not the same thing but are, on the contrary, exactly opposite things. Most confusion in economic thinking arises from failure to recognize this fact. Goods are wealth which you have, while money is a claim on wealth which you do not have. Thus goods are an asset; money is a debt. If goods are wealth; money is non-wealth, or negative wealth, or even anti-wealth."
 

Fortunately, Congressman Ron Paul has introduced legislation to restore financial stability to America's economy by abolishing the Federal Reserve.

Click here to contact your congressional representative and ask him/her to co-sponsor H.R. 2755.


72 posted on 03/11/2008 8:52:50 AM PDT by Etoo (I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
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To: Etoo
Fortunately, Congressman Ron Paul has introduced legislation to restore financial stability to America's economy by abolishing the Federal Reserve.

How would that improve things exactly?

73 posted on 03/11/2008 9:46:08 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
[How would that improve things exactly?]
 
To begin with, by taking monetary control back from The Fed(tm), a private corporation, and restoring monetary responsibility to the elected representatives of the citizens of the United States, as per Article 1, Section 8, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.
 
Congress has been freeloading long enough.  It's time to force them back to work for their lawfull employer - and that employer is not The Creature From Jeckyll Island.
 
 

74 posted on 03/11/2008 10:07:35 AM PDT by Etoo (I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
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To: Etoo
To begin with, by taking monetary control back from The Fed(tm), a private corporation, and restoring monetary responsibility to the elected representatives of the citizens of the United States

Because Ted and Hillary would do a better job? LOL!

75 posted on 03/11/2008 10:28:57 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: shrinkermd; Travis McGee; M. Espinola
THE FED HAS JUST INJECTED $200,000,000,000 MORE INTO THE SYSTEM !

The goal is to allow BIG investment firms essentially unlimited short-term loans secured by whatever toxic debt they have on their books.

CNBC reporter Diana Olick quoted Greg McBride,Bankrate.com:

It will not be measured today or tomorrow or next week. The success is going to be measured over many months. Right now there’s not an active market for a lot of securities; the root is in mortgages. What the Fed is doing is accepting a broader range of mortgage-backed securities as collateral in an effort to pump liquidity in the markets in the hopes that that helps ease the strains we’ve been experiencing for the past seven months.

It doesn’t really affect refis or loan modifications. It’s all about the spread between mortgage rates and treasury yields. It may provide a short-term psychological boost. . . .

All this 'Helicopter Ben' Rescue the Markets Hype was aimed at a short term psychological boost.

Nice job Ben ! We knew we could all count on you . . . < / snicker>

76 posted on 03/11/2008 11:17:25 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan
THE FED HAS JUST INJECTED $200,000,000,000 MORE INTO THE SYSTEM !

No they didn't.

What the Fed is doing is accepting a broader range of mortgage-backed securities as collateral in an effort to pump liquidity in the markets in the hopes that that helps ease the strains we’ve been experiencing for the past seven months.

OMG! That's terrible! Why is it terrible?

77 posted on 03/11/2008 11:27:41 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Why is it terrible? Because it might work!


78 posted on 03/11/2008 11:30:51 AM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

[Because Ted and Hillary would do a better job? LOL!]

But who do Ted and Hillary work for, really? 

"Though the plutocracy were unable to control the Democratic Party as they controlled the Republican Party, they did not cease their efforts to control both and in 1904 and 1924, Morgan was able to sit back with a feeling of satisfaction to watch presidential elections in which the candidates of both parties were in his sphere of influence."

Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time', by Carroll Quigley; Page 74

 

Time to give The Party(tm) a cashectomy:  Scissors cuts Credit Card.

79 posted on 03/11/2008 11:31:42 AM PDT by Etoo (I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
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To: Etoo
Though the plutocracy were unable to control the Democratic Party

All your party are belong to us.

80 posted on 03/11/2008 11:33:52 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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