“It’s exactly analogous to binging and purging, except worse, since it’s an abuse of one of man’s greatest powers, the ability to cooperate in the creation of new souls”
not true, and hypocritical of the church to say it is
the very idea of the rythym method, as the only way of contraception, is to - by being sure of the woman’s cycle to know when she is fertile and when not - to, by human reason, try and be sure the man is wasting his seed when his wife is infertile - past the last menstruation and before eggs have been released from the ovum again
deliberating avoiding the creation of ‘new souls’
others believe all ‘souls’ are already created, just waiting an earthly sojourn
is god, engaged and directly, in an immediate sense, making or preventing each possible human reproduction to occur, or not???
i don’t think so
as much as we see our children as a gift from god, as they are one of god’s child primarily, and before they are ours, it is by our choices, for good or bad, that we participate, or fail to, in that great giving from god
if man were just an automaton, even when he’s good, you could throw alot of genesis out
not true,
It's perfectly analogous. Where do you believe the analogy fails?
and hypocritical of the church to say it is
Not true. See below.
the very idea of the rythym method, as the only way of contraception, is to - by being sure of the woman’s cycle to know when she is fertile and when not - to, by human reason, try and be sure the man is wasting his seed when his wife is infertile - past the last menstruation and before eggs have been released from the ovum again
First, there is a categorical difference here between "the rythym method" (actually, NFP, which could be called the vaginal mucous method) and artificial means of contraception, since in the former case the couple is not employing any artificial means of inducing sterility, but instead is engaging in intercourse during a naturally infertile period.
Nevertheless, the Church (i.e., John Paul II) warns that couples should not engage in such natural means of avoiding pregnancy with "a contraceptive mentality," that is, with the idea of avoiding pregnancy for reasons of convenience. Such natural means of avoiding pregnancy are only permissible for "grave reasons," i.e., reasons that could threaten the existence of the marriage or family.
others believe all ‘souls’ are already created, just waiting an earthly sojourn
There is no Biblical or Traditional basis for such a belief, as far as I know.
is god, engaged and directly, in an immediate sense, making or preventing each possible human reproduction to occur, or not???
A new soul is created when a new person is individuated, at conception. This applies to all creatures, and is basic Aristotelian philosophy. The difference between animal souls (or "forms") is that human souls are endowed with reason (and will), which is eternal. So, with our current scientific understanding of embryology, it seems most plausible that God would infuse the human form or soul at individuation with reason and free will. It's theoretically possible that God could do this at a time other than conception, but there doesn't appear to be any compelling reason to believe so.
In a colloquial sense, then, it can be said that we "force God's hand" in creating new souls, since new souls endowed with intellect and free will are infused at physical individuation. Ultimately, however, it is impossible to "force God's hand," in that every act, whether ordained or allowed by God, occurs according to God's providence.
as much as we see our children as a gift from god, as they are one of god’s child primarily, and before they are ours, it is by our choices, for good or bad, that we participate, or fail to, in that great giving from god. if man were just an automaton, even when he’s good, you could throw alot of genesis out
Not sure I understand your point.