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Handgun problem can't be ignored [Barf Alert]
WCF Courier (Iowa) ^ | 3/9/08 | FRED ABRAHAM

Posted on 03/10/2008 9:41:21 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

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1 posted on 03/10/2008 9:41:22 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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I totally agree...the handgun problem can’t be ignored... all people should be able to carry their handguns with them, without licensing, and anywhere they wish.

Criminals will think TWICE or THREE times before pulling a weapon out in a crowded mall, or school if most people are ARMED.


2 posted on 03/10/2008 9:45:39 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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Another gun free zone, another mass murder. Yawn.


3 posted on 03/10/2008 9:46:40 AM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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Interpersonal conflicts are much the same way. When disagreements get heated and violent, the violence frequently escalates to firearms and someone gets shot. Without the gun, there may be a fistfight but those are usually not as deadly. Do you remember when handguns were called “Saturday Night Specials?” It was a reference to guns used when domestic disputes resulted in violence. Tempers flared and the result was a shooting. But, no gun, no shooting. And have you ever heard of a drive-by stabbing?

Umm... No, dumbass-author, "Saturday night specials" were called that because they were cheaply made guns that usually fall apart in your hands after fired once or twice.....
4 posted on 03/10/2008 9:47:37 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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Clearly, handguns are a problem, yet we do little about them.

Umm no, dumbass-author, CRIMINALS committing CRIMES are the problem.. CLEARLY we don't do enough about CRIMINALS. We also don't do enough about dumbass-liberal-authors who write dumbass crap like this and get away with it.
5 posted on 03/10/2008 9:49:38 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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So what can we do? One approach would be to allow the manufacture and sale of handguns only to law enforcement agencies. That would not infringe upon the right to “keep and bear arms” but the effect would certainly be to eventually curtail the availability of handguns. Or, how about tightly controlling the manufacture and distribution of ammunition? Both of these suggestions would control the supply of handguns and not directly restrict individual freedoms but would certainly have an impact.

What to do? What to do? Continue to wring your hands, you dumbass-liberal-author and rest peaceably at night knowing there are people like me and other Freepers who would still defend your dumbass life using one of your hated handguns if someone tried to hurt, maim or kill you.
6 posted on 03/10/2008 9:52:03 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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the only problem i have with handguns is that i have large fingers, and have a hard time finding one that i can put my fingers into, and will still be small enough to carry....


7 posted on 03/10/2008 9:52:11 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Screw McPain....J. Fred Muggs for POTUS)
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>>I totally agree...the handgun problem can’t be ignored... all people should be able to carry their handguns with them, without licensing, and anywhere they wish.<<

And there are kids growing up without basic self defense skills and gun safety knowledge.


8 posted on 03/10/2008 9:53:46 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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Another approach would be to heavily tax either handguns, ammunition or both. Or a registration of $1,000 per year also might dissuade more than a few from purchasing handguns.

I think a bill needs to be introduced to heavily tax articles like this, at an amount 3-10 times the amount someone might get paid for writing such an article.

This will help prevent lies and misinformation.
9 posted on 03/10/2008 9:53:51 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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Based solely upon their historical coddling of criminals, Democrats are far more dangerous than handguns. Perhaps every time someone registers as a Democrat, we ought to charge them $1000 and send the proceeds to their victims.


10 posted on 03/10/2008 9:54:28 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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ya!
Mine is trying to decide which one’s I can afford, since I can’t have all that I want!

THAT is a problem!


11 posted on 03/10/2008 9:56:59 AM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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the most surprising things in the aftermath was an almost complete lack of discussion on the topic of gun control

Yawn. Read Constitution.
Discussion complete.


12 posted on 03/10/2008 9:59:13 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
It’s clear any attempt to directly limit handgun ownership will cause huge constitutional battles but as suggested, there are other ways to accomplish the objective of limiting availability. There is no single magic solution to the handgun problem. Nonetheless, to continue to ignore the enormous human cost accompanying widespread distribution is an embarrassment. We should be a better society than that.

What is "clear" here is your attempt to circumvent the Second Amendment, and you are a CRIMINAL for trying to do this.
13 posted on 03/10/2008 10:00:05 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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The only problem I have with handguns is that I have large fingers, and have a hard time finding one that I can put my fingers into, and will still be small enough to carry....

Have you tried this one? Compact 9mm, very accurate even with a 3-in barrel, 10-16 rd mags, internal striker mechanism w/trigger and grip safeties, nice 3-dot sights.

14 posted on 03/10/2008 10:00:38 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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Or a registration of $1,000 per year also might dissuade more than a few from purchasing handguns.

How many criminal will that dissuade?


15 posted on 03/10/2008 10:01:57 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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Have we as a country given up on the notion of limiting access to firearms for the general population?

Yes, dumbass. It happened when the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution was ratified.

16 posted on 03/10/2008 10:02:33 AM PDT by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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If these criminals will obey the gun laws, then maybe we just just pass a law against killing people and let them obey that.

Oh, wait...

17 posted on 03/10/2008 10:02:50 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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And have you ever heard of a drive-by stabbing?

Why yes I have. If you ever visit that Mecca of a crime infestated state called Great Britain where there are no guns you will. I believe you see an absolute increase all violent crimes and the knife seems to be the weapon of choice.

18 posted on 03/10/2008 10:02:57 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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And there are kids growing up without basic self defense skills and gun safety knowledge.

Well, that isn't my problem, that's their parents' problems. MY children all go basic self-defense instruction, and all of them learned gun safety, even against their will. Children aren't "free citizens" until they reach the "age of majority". Until then they belong to their parents and parents are held responsible for their actions in almost every state in the United States.

Therefore, parents need to be teaching those skills. Parents that do not are directly responsible for their children's actions, or lack thereof in my book.
19 posted on 03/10/2008 10:03:20 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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If I correctly understand the author, does not the following obviate the author’s argument ?

“It isn’t that we are a particularly violent society. Our violent crime rate is about average for industrialized nations. Even as bad as TV and movies are about encouraging violence, we’re still not too far from the rest of the world. Where we differ is how we do our violence.”


20 posted on 03/10/2008 10:05:39 AM PDT by gjeiii (WV resident)
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