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To: llmc1
I'm just asking if you know why what you see as your situation differs with what the HSDLA reports. I've heard the phrase that homeschoolers do better in all academic areas, I've just never seen proof. Granted, with what you posted, the verbal scores were higher in homeschoolers to public schoolers, but is there anything more recent that shows how the math stacks up?

Thanks for posting, and I appreciate your personal anecdote. I'd be interested in seeing how homeschoolers stack up nationwide - private schoolers also.

Good wishes to you and yours!

40 posted on 03/10/2008 2:31:09 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA; llmc1; buffyt
Softballmom,

Homeschoolers far outshine those institutionalized in government schools. This is true for **every** area, including math! The U.S. Government own stats reveal this. The differences between black homeschoolers and black government schooled children is especially sad.

These stats are from 2001. I am willing to bet that the gap between homeschoolers and those institutionalized in government schools has increased.

Wintertime
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http://www.todays-learners.com/homeschool-facts.html

Minority Performance
Home school - average reading score (white) - 87 percentile; Public school - average reading score (white) - 61 percentile

Home school - average reading score (minority) - 87 percentile; Public school - average reading score (minority) -49 percent

Home school - average math score (white) - 82 percentile; Public school - average math score (white) - 60 percentile

Home school - average math score (minority) - 77 percentile; Public school - average math score (minority) - 50 percentile

For data above reference Brian D. Ray, PhD, Home Schooling on the Threshold (NHERI Publications, PO Box 13939, Salem, OR 97309), and HSLDA, Home Education Across the USA (HSLDA, 17333 Pickwick Dr., Purcellville, VA 20132), and HSLDA, Home Schooling Works, Pass it on! Rudner Report, (HSLDA, 17333 Pickwick Dr., Purcellville, VA 20132).

“The average SAT score for home schoolers in 2000 was 1100, compared with 1019 for the general population. And a large study by University of Maryland education researcher Lawrence Rudner showed that the average home schooler scored in the 75th percentile on the Iowa Test of Basic Skills; the 50th percentile marked the national average.”

These facts were excerpted from the United States Department of Education Study, summer 2001. http://nces.ed.gov/

41 posted on 03/10/2008 3:13:53 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

FYI:

I have looked all over the place and with the exception of the solitary link that so many are returning to, there is no empirical evidence that I can find supporting the homeschool vs public school issue.

Of course, there are some out there that will skew numbers to themselves to make something look better than what it is, but that is what you get when you play the statistics game.

And I have a feeling that even if I found evidence, that is not enough proof or would consequently be ignored.

Oh well. I have work to do.


44 posted on 03/11/2008 2:13:58 PM PDT by shag377 (Illegitimis nil carborundum sunt!)
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