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Photo Expert: Second Person Seen In SUV In (UNC Student Prez Eve) Carson Murder Case
Raleigh Chronicle ^ | March 9, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 03/09/2008 4:35:40 PM PDT by abb

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To: theymakemesick

I think we have each other confused because I have no idea what you are talking about. I was joking around about the Katrina refugee joke because the poster was teasing me about ‘do you reckon he’s an Astro fan’, blah blah blah. Anyway, nice to meet you! Let’s start over.


221 posted on 03/10/2008 10:43:45 AM PDT by Southerngl
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To: theymakemesick
Your welcome.
222 posted on 03/10/2008 11:09:47 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (Experience Change!)
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To: Hildy

It’s really a shame that the Constitution doesn’t allow the proper treatment for this sort of scum. That is, to tie his hands behind him, stand him in bare feet on a large block of ice, and then string his neck up to a tree branch with a short rope. On a cool day in the shade, it might be ten or twelve hours before he gets his just reward.

I’m not saying anyone should actually do this, of course. I’m just sayin’.


223 posted on 03/10/2008 12:32:04 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: wideawake; palmer; gracesdad

Seems this might be the second (or more) in a line of sacrifices of maidens.

So, here is another thread with new photos, and the opinions of folks who live there.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1983551/posts


224 posted on 03/10/2008 5:42:51 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: UCANSEE2

So, in other words, no actual data - just more speculation.


225 posted on 03/10/2008 5:45:52 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Southerngl; abb; wideawake
New perp photos from a convenience store here
226 posted on 03/10/2008 6:02:13 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: wideawake

Same speculation. Just more data.


227 posted on 03/10/2008 6:40:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: cherry

“why do murderous dogs go roaming in upscale college areas?”

Leaner meat.


228 posted on 03/10/2008 6:45:51 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: kcat

“I think we would be as outraged if this same girl was black. “


Here’s the issue that most might miss.

The suspect in this case appears to be a gang member.

To win favor of the gang, this ‘type’ of person would kill a white girl, or a black girl, or a hispanic woman, or a hispanic man, or a child, or a dog, or his nephews and neighbors.

Race isn’t the issue. Domination by violence is the issue.


229 posted on 03/10/2008 6:51:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: theymakemesick

I thought the premise of the article posted was that this photo expert had used editing techniques to improve and specifically enhance the logo on the cap, to make it obvious for a media release.

If it leads to the arrest of a person, so be it.
I would imagine the prosecutors would capitalize on other firmer evidence, once they find him.

This “H” isn’t meant to provide uncontrovertible evidence.

I heard his girlfriend is ratting him out anyway, so maybe we are bouncing around on a moot point. ???

Time will tell.


230 posted on 03/10/2008 7:01:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: UCANSEE2
Seems this might be the second (or more) in a line of sacrifices of maidens.

Of course the real source of your "data" on this is some sort of chain email, right?

231 posted on 03/11/2008 1:16:10 AM PDT by palmer
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To: palmer

Well, you could start with the murder/rapes in Wichita involving black males and a group of white males and females.

Stripped them down on a ball field, had deviant sex with them, then murdered them.

Used a phrase similar to “kill the white girl”, except the street vernacular for ‘girl’ was used.


And it’s not only black gangs. MS-13 has it’s own initiation.


232 posted on 03/11/2008 1:38:31 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: levotb
I am not convinced they specifically targeted her knowing who she was, except as just a college kid off campus in a nice vehicle.

There is an incredibly low probability of some college student being armed if they are leaving a campus, and that makes them easy meat.

Women are less likely to be effective at physical confrontation as well.

Some predator(s) out there playing the odds.

233 posted on 03/11/2008 1:55:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: UCANSEE2
Just more data.

No, you haven't supplied any data at all.

Neither of these cases has been described by any source involved in the investigation as a gang crime, let alone characterized as a gang initiation.

And, since most new gang recruits are thirteen or fourteen years old I doubt the perps in either murder had all of a sudden decided to join gangs later in life.

If they are gang members, they have been for years.

234 posted on 03/11/2008 5:22:09 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: UCANSEE2

Guess you missed this quote from the gang expert in the article:

“Glass said that even if the suspect is in gang, it is unlikely Carson’s death was gang-related.
“This case, I firmly believe is a random act of violence, by some very violent young men,” he said.”

And then you said:

“To win favor of the gang, this ‘type’ of person would kill a white girl, or a black girl, or a hispanic woman, or a hispanic man, or a child, or a dog, or his nephews and neighbors.

Race isn’t the issue. Domination by violence is the issue.”

But earlier you said they had to kill a “maiden,” which you alleged means a white girl.


235 posted on 03/12/2008 11:27:50 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: gracesdad

““Glass said that even if the suspect is in gang, it is unlikely Carson’s death was gang-related.
“This case, I firmly believe is a random act of violence, by some very violent young men,” he said.”

....said that even if the suspect is a mafia hit-man, it is unlikely that the murder of a prominent businessman was mafia related.
This case, I firmly believe is a random act of violence, by some very violent hit men.


236 posted on 03/12/2008 11:32:55 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: gracesdad

“But earlier you said they had to kill a “maiden,” which you alleged means a white girl.”

This is the gang initiation in some gangs.
In others, you must survive getting the hell beat out of you.

Once in a gang, you kill anyone you are asked to. Or feel like.

What I am trying to point out is that this wasn’t a love affair gone wrong.

It is gang violence. Kill anyone. Steal from them.
White chicks are just easy prey.

This would appear to be a member of a gang, and he robbed and killed a young white woman with no more consideration than he would give to selling crack to his sister.

I am not saying there will be a rampage of ‘white chick’ murders.

I am saying that this is an accepted and expected part of their violent gang culture, and to believe that it is not, is just resistance to the truth.


237 posted on 03/12/2008 11:43:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: theymakemesick

A jury won’t see the colorized version of this. A jury would have the bank black and white photo, time stamp, computer print out of her card usage, etc. presented as evidence. The police colorized this image for news release only to generate an easier to ID photo for public consumption to bring the perp in. The enhancement is solely for public id’ing...nothing more.


238 posted on 03/12/2008 11:57:01 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Yoi. And double yoi.)
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To: theymakemesick

The ‘H’ is clearly present in the black and white photo as well.


239 posted on 03/12/2008 12:04:28 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Yoi. And double yoi.)
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To: AppyPappy

“If this was some toothless hick redneck, the media would be on it like one of Vick’s dogs. But they can’t milk this story now. It will fade away.”

Doesn’t seem to me to be fading much.


240 posted on 03/13/2008 7:45:48 AM PDT by gracesdad
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